Hunting

[Kacie_bride]

Alright ladies, how do you feel about hunting? As always, respect others.

[MOB Karen]

I think it's just awful. I don't even like to think about those poor animals getting shot to death. :bbcry:

[Kacie_bride]

I am not a big hunter or anything, but I do like going. Justin is really into it. He practices with his bow all year long. He is so ready for bow season to open up in Oct. Then in Nov. rifle season starts! Actually opening weekend is on my bridal shower date!

Justin hunts deer, duck, dove, and he has gone hog hunting before. The only type of hunting I am against is hog hunting. The only reason I am against hog hunting is because when I worked for a vet I saw many hog dogs torn up from the hogs.

I like deer hunting and that is it. I don't eat dove, so I don't care about dove hunting. As for duck hunting, it is just to darn cold to get into water in waders.

[hummingbird521]

I have no problem with hunting whatsoever. My husband goes several times a year and I often go with him. Being born and raised in the south it is just common here. In fact some schools often take the first few days of deer season and let school out. However I don't believe in hunting unless you actually eat it. I once raised a baby fawn from the time it was only a few hours old till it reached about 3 months old. It still doesn't stop me from hunting. It is a way of life in the south.

[Kacie_bride]

. However I don't believe in hunting unless you actually eat it.

That is the way I feel too.

[Kacie_bride]

I do have a question for anyone who is against hunting, but still eats meat. What is the difference between someone shooting an animal and eating it and having an animal slaughtered and bought in a package at the grocery store? I can defiantely understand not wanting to see the animal get shot or its body.

[ladymelissa]

I am not really against it. Here, it is highly regulated so the animal population does not get too depleted. You would not find me sitting in woods full of people running around with guns or even bows shooting at things though. I am too scared of getting shot by mistake. I would probably eat some game, but don't know anyone who hunts so it's not something available to me. I would hope that whatever is killed is actually put to good use (eat the meat, make blankets or something out of the coat), I do not support just killing to kill and leaving it there to rot. I also feel that there is more sport in bows as opposed to guns.

[Kacie_bride]

I am not really against it. Here, it is highly regulated so the animal population does not get too depleted. You would not find me sitting in woods full of people running around with guns or even bows shooting at things though. I am too scared of getting shot by mistake. I would probably eat some game, but don't know anyone who hunts so it's not something available to me. I would hope that whatever is killed is actually put to good use (eat the meat, make blankets or something out of the coat), I do not support just killing to kill and leaving it there to rot. I also feel that there is more sport in bows as opposed to guns.

We use all the meat and would never leave anything there to rot. With deer, we love the meat too much! You also only get so many tags so to not use all the meat would be bad. There is not much you can do with deer hides though.

[WebLady]

I myself would not hunt, but I eat game. DH's dad hunts deer and we get alot of free venison ;)

[StaceyMc]

I don't hunt, but I grew up around my dad hunting and it's just a normal part of life. My FH is a bow hunter and a rifle hunter. In fact, he just got the bow back from being restrung, I bought him a new practice bag and he's having his bow guy make him some new arrows. He's anxious for bow season to start.

Kacie - does Justin wear "dirt" or "leaf" scent? Joe wears a leaf scent that his friend makes - he smells just like a pile of leaves and heaven forbid I get too close to him before he goes out into the woods - the deer might smell my perfume!

I just told him last night that he's on a one deer limit this year, since we still have some of the two he got last year in my freezer and in my parent's freezer. We eat it and I can't remember the last time I bought ground meat. We hardly bought steaks this summer either, unless he wanted something other than venison steak.

[Kacie_bride]

I don't hunt, but I grew up around my dad hunting and it's just a normal part of life. My FH is a bow hunter and a rifle hunter. In fact, he just got the bow back from being restrung, I bought him a new practice bag and he's having his bow guy make him some new arrows. He's anxious for bow season to start.

Kacie - does Justin wear "dirt" or "leaf" scent? Joe wears a leaf scent that his friend makes - he smells just like a pile of leaves and heaven forbid I get too close to him before he goes out into the woods - the deer might smell my perfume!

I just told him last night that he's on a one deer limit this year, since we still have some of the two he got last year in my freezer and in my parent's freezer. We eat it and I can't remember the last time I bought ground meat. We hardly bought steaks this summer either, unless he wanted something other than venison steak.

We just ate the last of meat from last year a week ago. We went through the ground meat pretty fast.

Justin does not wear any kind of scent. I do know some guys that carry around doe urine though. That is pretty gross.

[LizabethDavis]

I don't hunt, not because I am against it, but because it's really cold, it's really early and I don't want to do it....I do however love some good deer meat!

[MOB Karen]

I do have a question for anyone who is against hunting, but still eats meat. What is the difference between someone shooting an animal and eating it and having an animal slaughtered and bought in a package at the grocery store? I can defiantely understand not wanting to see the animal get shot or its body.

I didn't look into their sad little eyes, and pull the trigger. It has to be in cellophane before I can eat it.

[MOB Karen]

Another thing, a lot of you were raised to accept hunting, I wasn't. My father never shot a living thing in his whole life. He was against hunting too, so that is the way we were raised. My Dad was a big softie who loved animals, and he just didn't have the heart to ever go hunting. He also didn't like guns.

[cowboysbride]

I hunt, Eric hunts. FIL owns the farm we hunt on so we don't fear that someone will shoot us, if someone is hunting without permission on our land they may get shot though!:bbeek: I love deer and turkey. I fix it tons of different ways.

As for the argument on the prepackaged food, well that comes from us too...we raise beef it's part of our life and I would much rather eat what we raise and slaughter (I know the conditions of the meat). I buy meat at the grocery store but prefer our own when at all possible.

I totally understand the POV's here and think that we all like and do diff. things...it's a circle that keeps us rolling!

[MOB Karen]

And you are how you are raised, because neither one of my children could ever shoot an animal. But I realize someone has to do it, it just would never be anyone in my family. lol :D

[AllyM1]

I love hunting and I love eating it. I love deer salami and jerky.. it's great. I have never ate rabbit or anything like that before, but I wouldn't mind trying.

I was taught really young about guns and safety and all that jazz... I'm very comfortable with shooting a gun and shooting animals. I don't like when people shoot mommies or babies though. I haven't seen anyone shoot a baby but I am sure there is some sick freak out there who has done it.

[70707Bride]

I voted against it but I have eaten venison before. My grandpa and uncle used to hunt but not anymore, or not as often.

[rainbowtreat]

I don't hunt but will eat the meat. I love deeer meat and whild turkey meat is awsome. It is soo good. My ex husband hunted some what but my ex boyfriend hunted all the time. He took 3 vacations a yr just to go to vermont with the guys and hunt. I have watched a deer be skinned then took the meat home and cooked it up. It is sooo good. I love it. That is the only thing I miss baout being with him lol. It's awful I know but I loved that deer and turkey meat. My husband does not hunt, or fish for that matter.

[CarlosHoney]

My lifelong anti-hunting stance really influinced me to become a vegetarian...

I mean, if I'm not willing to kill it, and think that gutting it is gross, then why should I eat it? Plus, if I'm against hunting an animal who has lived a happy life in the wild, then why am I going to be all for slaughtering an animal that has an incredibly miserable life, living in constant confinement, in really gross living quarters.

I do encourage others who eat meat to buy wild game and family farmed meats. That way the animal wasn't miserable, and I think that if you hunt it, you should eat it.

I love animals too much to choose which ones are cuddly enough to be pets and which ones are ugly or stupid, and worthy of killing them. To me, they all have feelings and they all don't want to die. I understand that in certain areas, the deer population must be controlled, but you'd never catch me hunting anything.... ever.

[Kacie_bride]

I didn't look into their sad little eyes, and pull the trigger. It has to be in cellophane before I can eat it.

I think I just didn't get my question out good enough for you to understand. Let's see if I can try to reword it better. I know you are against you hunting because you don't want to pull the trigger or cause something's death. Are you neccesarily against others hunting is what I am asking I guess.

[MOB Karen]

I think I just didn't get my question out good enough for you to understand. Let's see if I can try to reword it better. I know you are against you hunting because you don't want to pull the trigger or cause something's death. Are you neccesarily against others hunting is what I am asking I guess.

I think I said that somebody has to do it, but just not me.

[Kacie_bride]

I think I said that somebody has to do it, but just not me.

I understand then what you are saying. I guess I was thinking when someone says against it then they mean nobody should do it. I probably should have put another choice in the poll. Oh well.

[Jenn060306]

I don't like it. At all.

[LaceyinPgh]

I don't hunt. I don't feel that it is a very lady like pursuit. My father never hunted. My grandfathers never hunted. My husband sure as hell has never hunted. I can't even get him to stop and pick up a pack of chicken on his way home from work. So for him to go out in the cold predawn, track, kill, and clean, and prepare a deer, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! I have no desire to kill anything. I can barely bring myself to squish a spider. I cried the day I had to call an exterminator because I found mouse evidence in the house. I do not usually eat meat (poultry on rare occasions) so I am not eating wild game either.

But, if you want to hunt, good for you. I know around here the deer population is through the roof. If they have to die (hunting, disease, cold, starvation) at least let something good come from it. Also, I love animals, but I did have a deer jump on the hood of a brand new sports car and total it. I think I had the thing for 3-4 days. As far as I am concerned, the day Bambi did that is the day Bambi lost all of my compassion.

[mlm063007]

I have not gone hunting, but I am planning on going this year with Clayton. He is also planning on taking up bow hunting, which I am also anxious to try.

Although last time I went I took some peanuts and Clayton was irritated because he said I was making too much noise. :D Oh well.

[Valmai]

We dont have a large deer population here and im not sure how the laws here are with hunting them, but after much Ohh Ahh we did ban hunting with dogs. (loads of clauses etc tho) My dad has always gone hunting both fishing and shooting but mostly small game such as wood pigeon, rabbit, pheasant etc. I love all meat and tend to think its just how i was brought up, ive never gone myself but have helped gut them when hes come home. x

[racecargirl]

Hunting doesn't bother me as long as it isn't wasteful. I don't think people should kill an animal just to kill. If you are going to use the animal for food, clothing, etc, then it doesn't bother me. I personally don't hunt, but I know a lot of people who do.

[cowboysbride]

I do encourage others who eat meat to buy wild game and family farmed meats. That way the animal wasn't miserable, and I think that if you hunt it, you should eat it.

Thank you for that, beef farming is our way of life and our animals get the best of living conditions and care...

[CarlosHoney]

Thank you for that, beef farming is our way of life and our animals get the best of living conditions and care...I'm really glad to hear that. I mean, I'm not so much opposed to the animal's death (though it still makes me sad, since no animal wants to die) as the practices that they are raised under. I got my Mom to start buying Organic, and now she totally agrees with my lifestyle. Before she didn't.. Thought that it was stupid... :rolleyes:

[Kacie_bride]

I'm really glad to hear that. I mean, I'm not so much opposed to the animal's death (though it still makes me sad, since no animal wants to die) as the practices that they are raised under. I got my Mom to start buying Organic, and now she totally agrees with my lifestyle. Before she didn't.. Thought that it was stupid... :rolleyes:

I just wanted to let you know, Carrie or anyone else, that I am not opposed to organic beef or free range animals. I think anyone who wants that type of lifestyle should eat those types of foods.

The only thing about it is it could not work for everyone. The industry could not work like that. The cost of meat would be too high because raising these animals like that is much more expensive. If the entire industry was like that it would cause only the wealthy to be able to afford a steak and the normal people would pay $10 for a hamburger at McDonalds.

However if you are into this go for it! I am 100% for you going for it, because it supports agriculture! Our university has an organic project on the side for extra money. It's a great niche market.

[Tami&Chris]

I am against it. I do eat meat but I guess for me its just different. I can not stand the thought of them being shot. I cant explain how its different to me but thats how I feel. Chris has never gone hunting and if he ever decided he wanted to go, I would not support him. He knows this and understands.

[CarlosHoney]

I just wanted to let you know, Carrie or anyone else, that I am not opposed to organic beef or free range animals. I think anyone who wants that type of lifestyle should eat those types of foods.

The only thing about it is it could not work for everyone. The industry could not work like that. The cost of meat would be too high because raising these animals like that is much more expensive. If the entire industry was like that it would cause only the wealthy to be able to afford a steak and the normal people would pay $10 for a hamburger at McDonalds.

However if you are into this go for it! I am 100% for you going for it, because it supports agriculture! Our university has an organic project on the side for extra money. It's a great niche market.I wrote a post earlier, and something messed up. It was so nice, I can't believe that it gor erased. So, here I go....again. :jphappy:

I don't think that making meat more expensive would nesecarily be a bad thing. I have a few points to support this idea:

1. People need to think a little more about what they eat. Eating meat morning, noon, and night is not a healthy practice AT ALL! A correct portion size is 4oz of Beef, 5oz of Chicken, and 6oz of fish (aprox.).. Most restaurants give you 2-3X that much, and many people do eat the whole serving. So, in one or two days, that's enough meat for a whole week.

2. I'm paying for your 'cheap meat'. The government subsideses the Meat industry. Without my tax dollars going to pay for these meat farms, it would be around $14 a pound for meat. At the same time, the government pays farmers NOT to grow corn, because there is a gross overabundance of it in the USA.. And it's just sitting in Granaries and rotting. :irked:

3. The resources (feed, water, energy, etc.) that one meat eater uses could feed TWENTY vegetairans. That's right, TWENTY.

4. The nataral resources being used up by the meat industry is just insaine! The meat industry uses more water than any other industry in America. So, I feel a little more justified in my long shower, and leaving that water running when I brush my teeth. The meat industry is also very bad on the environment pollution-wise.

5. Meat is destroying the rainforest. As I type this post, rainforest is being cleared to raise beef. They're not even chopping the wood to use it, they're burning it. So, instead of oxygen giving trees, we're getting hamburgers. Great.

6. The American people are SO unhealthy. A decrease in the consumption of meat would lower the rates of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, kidey and liver problems, etc. It would boost the ammount of fruits, vegetables, and grains in the diet, which are all much better on the environment to produce than meat.

7. The "The animals are there to eat and nothing else" mentality isn't terribly respectful. They did lay down their life (unwillingly) so that you could eat, and I think that it's a sacred thing being able to consume the flesh of another animal. The human body wasn't equipped to handle the ammount of animal fat that is typical in the American diet.

Just saying, I've done my reading and research. The fact that it's easier to eat extremely unhealthy food rather than fresh, good, healthy food makes me terribly sad. The people who consume all of this chemical laden food are often very poor and don't have healthcare.

That's all! :innocent:

[BriansBride07]

I don't hunt and nor do i chose to hunt ever i could never kill an animal. But on the other hand i'm able to clean just about whatever my FH brings home and cook it up for my family. We are all big meat eaters wether its hunted or if its bought in the supermarket.

[Kacie_bride]

The meat debate could just go on and on. I could bring out countless animal science journals and texts and compare it with Peta's stuff. I could bring out government documents. It could go on forever.

However, I don't think the beef industry is going anywhere. People like beef and right now the market is good. Organic beef is going to make people a lot of money, while they are also producing regular beef. They actually mark it up higher than it even would be with the increased costs of production because they know people will pay it. They just see it as a niche market.

That said I think I am going to bow out of this meat debate. If anyone has any specific questions about beef or beef cattle I would be happy to answer them.

[CarlosHoney]

The meat debate could just go on and on. I could bring out countless animal science journals and texts and compare it with Peta's stuff. I could bring out government documents. It could go on forever.

However, I don't think the beef industry is going anywhere. People like beef and right now the market is good. Organic beef is going to make people a lot of money, while they are also producing regular beef. They actually mark it up higher than it even would be with the increased costs of production because they know people will pay it. They just see it as a niche market.

That said I think I am going to bow out of this meat debate. If anyone has any specific questions about beef or beef cattle I would be happy to answer them.That's cool, sweetie!! :hug: You've provided a lot of info and that's awesome. I'm always glad to tlak to people who are really informed..

:cloppy: Kep buying family farmed meat, folks!! :chicken:

[Kacie_bride]

That's cool, sweetie!! :hug: You've provided a lot of info and that's awesome. I'm always glad to tlak to people who are really informed..

:cloppy: Kep buying family farmed meat, folks!! :chicken:

:beer_smile: You have provided some good insight as well.

[ikkin510]

I was brought up to fear guns. I am slowly getting over the fear, I no long get all nervous when an officer stops in at work with his gun with him. I want to learn to shoot eventually. Steve loves to hunt. He goes every year to hunt deer. I like the meat, although, he donates whatever he kills to his church and they give the meat to needy families in the area.

[asm198]

I grew up on a farm and we raised beef cattle. Our cattle paid the mortgage on the farm and my college tuition. We had a very small amount of cattle (maybe 100?) and they had free run of almost all of our 200 acres.

No one in my family hunted, but my dad allowed people who came and asked to hunt deer on our land. Most were neighboring farmers who didn't want to tresspass, friends who didn't live on a farm, or friends of friends who were poor and didn't have enough money to buy much food. Every one of them ate what they killed and usually gave us a portion of the meat.

My parents grew up very poor and in the country, so I grew up on a fairly self-sustaining farm. A good portion of the meat we ate came from our cattle and most of the vegetables and fruits we ate came from our 1/2 acre garden. Especially during the summer months, the only things we bought at the grocery store were grains and dairy.

I don't know anyone anymore who hunts, but I support it, as long as the animal is used as much as possible. Everyone I ever knew who hunted thought it was completely wrong to kill an animal and leave it.

But a big reason I am ok with hunting is because of some of the families that would hunt on our farm who were really poor. They had two small children and had fallen on very hard times. They were welcome to hunt on our land at any time (during the appropriate seasons, of course) and they were grateful for it. During the summer, my mom would always load them up with veggies from the garden because she would always get too ambitious and plant more than we could ever hope to eat. I wonder what would have happened to those people if they weren't allowed to hunt.