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Kacie_bride
08-25-2006, 12:29 PM
Many cities now have smoking bans in restaurants and bars. Do you agree with this?

Kacie_bride
08-25-2006, 12:33 PM
I don't smoke, but I think as long as a restaurant has a smoking area then it is fine. As for bars, I don't go there for my health. If people want to smoke in a bar then I think it is okay.

MOB Karen
08-25-2006, 12:38 PM
I don't think anyone should smoke in restaurants, because even when there is a designated spot for them, you still smell the smoke in the whole building and it sort of ruins your meal. I think bars are fair game. Everywhere else, there should be smoking areas for them so that people don't have to inadvertently walk through smoke every time they enter a building.

WebLady
08-25-2006, 12:38 PM
This happened here a few months back. I am fine with it since I don't smoke and it only made things better for me.

I've always thought if someone wants to smoke that is their choice and I don't care as long as it doesn't affect me. I hate to be around smoke at all but even more so when I am trying to eat. I hat to go into a restaurant with a 'smoking section' right beside the non smokers and sometimes you could even smell it.

Now I've heard some smokers say this is infringing on their rights and freedoms ... but their right to smoke shouldn't infringe on our right not to be around it.

The way I see it if you are going to have a separate section then it needs to be a separate enclosed area so the non smokers don't have to be bothered with it.

As for the bar thing, I expect that kind of thing at a bar so I don't frequent those places as much anymore.

Kacie_bride
08-25-2006, 12:43 PM
There is a cafe across the street from us where the whole thing is smoking. It is a little place and if a bunch of people are in there smoking it can get bad. I still go there because I like the food. Smoke does not bother me as bad as some people because my mother smokes and I'm used to it.

Luby's has a smoking section that is enclosed. Even if you sit right near it I never smell it. That is a good idea.

ladymelissa
08-25-2006, 12:50 PM
I don't really care either way. Mostly, I think it should be left to the restaurant or bar owners to do what is best for their business. They know their clients' needs/wants best.

WebLady
08-25-2006, 12:57 PM
I don't really care either way. Mostly, I think it should be left to the restaurant or bar owners to do what is best for their business. They know their clients' needs/wants best.
That would be fine with me ... even before the ban, I would only go places with a separate designated smoking area that I didn't have to be anywhere near.

There was a place her that had the smoking section way in the back and that was fine, but then to get to the restrooms you had to go threw it :bbconfused:

LaceyinPgh
08-25-2006, 01:16 PM
This is one of the reasons we love to go to New York. They have a city wide smoking ban. You can sit in a bar, enjoy a good drink, and not have nasty cigarette smoke interfering with your good time.

I am in full favor of a total smoking ban. If you want cancer, good for you. If you want to inhale a million and one other chemicals, go for it. I don't want to. I go out of my way to live a healthy lifestyle. On the rare occasion I decide I want a martini or a meal out, I see no reason why I should have to deal with other peoples' bad choices.

As for smoking sections, they are joke, there are still doorways left open and they share a common venilation system. Don't patronize me and tell me that I won't leave reeking like cigarette smoke. I do. I find no joy in having to come home from an evening out and completely showering before I can go to bed.

If you want to smoke, I don't care. I don't care what another person does with their bodies. But your right to kill cells ends where my right to inhale clean air begins. If you want to make the choice, than take the consequences that go with it.

AngelinLove
08-25-2006, 01:31 PM
I feel that restaurants should all be smoke-free, just because it is so disgusting to be inhaling people's second-hand smoke, while you are trying to eat your meal. I feel that bars should be left open to the owners discretion. Bars are usually asscoiated with smoke anyways and in the rare instance that I go to a bar...I know that I am going to have to take a shower as soon as I get home...or I will be smelling like cigarettes. I feel that smokers have some rights too and that we as non-smokers also have teh right not to enter a place that allows smoking. It is called free choice. I feel that just becuase we don't smoke that we should automatically get free reign of everything and make it non-smoking. JMHO!!!

cowboysbride
08-25-2006, 01:55 PM
This is one of the reasons we love to go to New York. They have a city wide smoking ban. You can sit in a bar, enjoy a good drink, and not have nasty cigarette smoke interfering with your good time.

I am in full favor of a total smoking ban. If you want cancer, good for you. If you want to inhale a million and one other chemicals, go for it. I don't want to. I go out of my way to live a healthy lifestyle. On the rare occasion I decide I want a martini or a meal out, I see no reason why I should have to deal with other peoples' bad choices.

As for smoking sections, they are joke, there are still doorways left open and they share a common venilation system. Don't patronize me and tell me that I won't leave reeking like cigarette smoke. I do. I find no joy in having to come home from an evening out and completely showering before I can go to bed.

If you want to smoke, I don't care. I don't care what another person does with their bodies. But your right to kill cells ends where my right to inhale clean air begins. If you want to make the choice, than take the consequences that go with it.


OH I LOVE THIS GIRL~! ROFLMMFAO!

I used to smoke and now that I don't I can't stand to smell it, and I **** sure don't like my clothes and hair smelling like it. I never realized how nasty it was until I quit!

SoontobeMrsClark07
08-26-2006, 01:04 AM
We have a city-wide smoking ban in my city. In the county (where most of the chain restaurants are) there isnt. Some restaurants have better smoking sections than others, but more often than not, you can still smell it and it makes me sick. I dont care if people smoke, I just dont think they should do it in public buildings where other people can breathe it.

CarlosHoney
08-26-2006, 01:43 AM
I think that if an establishment wants to offer a smoking section, that they should be able to. But, they need to go out of their way to make it seperate. That's the rule in San Antonio..

I think that bars should have a seperate smoking section. I used to be a smoker.. I don't like the smell, but I think that the business owner should have the choice..

Valmai
08-26-2006, 06:09 AM
This is a hot topic in Wales @ mo, we are bringing in an enforced smoking ban in all indoor public places and England has followed suit! A lot of restaurants have had designated non smoking places enforced on them for a year or so but by Summer 2007 there will be a total ban. When we came to California it was odd at first that some of our group had to keep nipping outside for a quick ciggy but at the same time i sat there and thought how sad that they couldnt even spend a nite without one! I have smoked, a very long time ago and i hate the taste of it on my glass when im out, inhaling it constantly and its lovely to walk out of a pub and have that 'fresh' air again! x

LizabethDavis
08-26-2006, 06:47 AM
Oh I agree with Lacey...the State of Maine has a STATEWIDE smoking ban in public places. There is no smoking in restaurants OR bars. You can still smoke in the private "clubs", as I found out at Gwen's wedding, but I enjoy being able to go out to a restaurant and take my kids with me and not have to worry about them inhaling second hand smoke....and I enjoy being able to go to the bar and club without reeking of smoke when I come out....

AllyM1
08-26-2006, 11:35 AM
I see it as why the hell should I tell someone what they should be allowed to do?

I agree that restaurants should be smoke free. I don't know who the hell wants to smoke a cigarette while they are eating anyway.. doesn't make sense to me.

I don't go into bowling alleys because they are always smokey. I don't go into bars because they are smokey. If I don't want to be around smoke, I don't go places that I know a lot of people will be smoking at.

There is a ban in the city of Columbus and it has hurt a lot of the business (bars, rest, etc) because people can't smoke there... so they just go oustide the city limits and give their business to someone where they can smoke. Private businesses should be able to decide whether they want smoking or not, who they will give business to, etc.

It hurts the small business owners and that's something I don't like. I actually voted against the smoking ban in my city.

70707Bride
08-26-2006, 12:18 PM
Yes! After seeing how my grandma died of really bad emphasyma, I'm totally against it. Even if there are areas that are non smoking, the smell still drifts. Smokers just don't care if it affects others. There's this restaurant in town that has just recently remodeled. They are in the process of making the place completely half and half, smoking and non smoking. There will be a door that completely separates it. There's this other place in that allows smoking, but get this, there are 2 small tables right BETWEEN smoking sections. Yeah, that's real smoke free. People don't go out with friends and stuff to smoke, they go out to eat or talk. If they want to smoke, do it somewhere else or just stay home.

Smoking is NOT an option.

ikkin510
08-26-2006, 01:58 PM
I am for the ban. I don't want to be breathing in the smoke. A person can choose to smoke, but those that choose not to, still have to breath in the smoke....I don't think so. My major point behind my opinion is that I have asthma which is set of by smoke (amoung other things). So, I don't like to be around it and I have missed out on going out with friends because the places they have gone to have too much smoke for me. jmo

mariaandmanish
08-26-2006, 07:34 PM
I love that most of NY State has a smoking ban in restaurants and bars. I don't smoke, and literally can't stand it at all. DH smokes, but he's not even allowed to smoke inside our home. When he wants to smoke, he has to take it outside to the deck or the front porch. I think that smoking is a choice that a person makes for himself/herself and those of us who choose not to smoke should not have to breathe it in and end up with lung cancer from second hand. Therefore, the fact that people have to go outside to smoke, IMO, is a great thing.

There was a big outcry in NYC when they started the ban, everyone was screaming that it would hurt business. And, given the amount of bars in NYC, they had a point. But, as it turns out, NYC businesses did not suffer at all. People still went, and people still go to the bars and clubs. Most of the bars and clubs in and around NYC have designated smoking areas outside for people, and they all go there, sun, rain, or snow. I can now go out for drinks or dancing and can come home without reaking, or coughing.:bbmrgreen:

LaceyinPgh
08-26-2006, 08:38 PM
Oh I agree with Lacey...the State of Maine has a STATEWIDE smoking ban in public places. There is no smoking in restaurants OR bars. You can still smoke in the private "clubs", as I found out at Gwen's wedding, but I enjoy being able to go out to a restaurant and take my kids with me and not have to worry about them inhaling second hand smoke....and I enjoy being able to go to the bar and club without reeking of smoke when I come out....
Believe it or not, Maine just made the vacation destination list. Go Maine!

AllyM1
08-26-2006, 09:36 PM
Bar Harbor Maine... you gotta make that a trip... The place is awesome... I loved it there.

jeni740
08-27-2006, 08:18 AM
They banned smoking from here 2 years ago, right around the time I quit, I think it is a little ridiculous that they make smokers smoke like hundreds of feet away from buildings now, but they are right, 2nd hand smoke is worse for you than smoking yourself for some odd reason, so I would be a little ticked if I died from 2nd hand smoke after it was so hard for me to quit smoking myself.

LaceyinPgh
08-27-2006, 08:26 AM
They banned smoking from here 2 years ago, right around the time I quit, I think it is a little ridiculous that they make smokers smoke like hundreds of feet away from buildings now, but they are right, 2nd hand smoke is worse for you than smoking yourself for some odd reason, so I would be a little ticked if I died from 2nd hand smoke after it was so hard for me to quit smoking myself.
Second hand smoke is worse because it doesn't get filtered at all. At least with a cigarette, you get it slightly filtered.

For those of you who feel that smoking should be allowed because I have the choice to stay in my house; so do you. I shouldn't have to stay in my home and not enjoy a social life because you are allowed to smoke. Whereas, you can make the choice to not smoke and still enjoy go out.

Jenn060306
08-27-2006, 09:59 AM
In Ontario you are not allowed to smoke at restraunts, or in bars, the casino's are no smoke free as well. You have to leave the property to smoke at schools and hospitals etc. Recently they also started a ban on smoking on outdoor patio's at restraunts and bars. They are only allowed to have smoking if their is no roof cover over a certain size. Alot of people anticipate soon the only place you can smoke in Ontario is in your own home or car if there is no children there.
I think it is fantastic. I absolutely hate being near someone smoking. It makes me feel phsyically ill. I wish there was a bit more enforcement on it but its good.

rainbowtreat
08-27-2006, 10:58 AM
Here in NH there is not a smoking ban but most places have smoking sections. Except the bars. You can still smoke there. My husband and I smoke but we don't smoke in the house. We go outside. One because we dont want it around the kids, we chose to smoke, they did not. And two because the lanlord doesnt want smoking in the place. And I can understand that. I feel some people take all this to the extreme. Me as a smoker wont smoke unless I can. ( like if there is a place and I am with other smokers) If I am with a group of freind who dont smoke then I wont. I might sneek out if it is an all night thing, if it is for a couple of hours I can wait. And I have some freinds who dont smoke that dont mind if I do. If they make a smokign ban then that is fine with me. It is jsut like drinking, if you choose to do it then fine but you have to do it in certain places, you cant be walking down the street with a beer in hand, you have to at a bar or in your house etc. Same with smoking, you have to be away from others who dont smoke then fine. No big deal.

70707Bride
08-27-2006, 11:00 AM
I just thought I'd share this. My friend's parents smoke like a chimney IN the house. She's had to go to the doc a few times to get an inhaler. Its ridiculous. I mean, that's just an example of how smokers don't care about the health of others. She doesn't have a choice, and what choice do young children or unborn babies have?

Jenn060306
08-27-2006, 01:41 PM
I just thought I'd share this. My friend's parents smoke like a chimney IN the house. She's had to go to the doc a few times to get an inhaler. Its ridiculous. I mean, that's just an example of how smokers don't care about the health of others. She doesn't have a choice, and what choice do young children or unborn babies have?

IMO, I belive that not all smokers fon't care about the health of others. DH's father and step mother smoke but they are very considerate of us. They only smoke in their bedroom of their home so that it is safe for their children and grandchildren. I'm not even all that sure that their grandchildren know they smoke because they usually just say they are going outside for a breath of 'fresh' air and they are good about hiding it from the kids.
There are definatly some people out there who don't care. But i think the number of people who do care out weight those who dont.

70707Bride
08-27-2006, 07:38 PM
There are definatly some people out there who don't care. But i think the number of people who do care out weight those who dont.

This may be true, but just going by who I know, work with, and been around, it just seems like the opposite.

mlm063007
08-27-2006, 11:57 PM
I think that it is a good idea. Smoker's talk about their right to smoke. What about my right to be able to breathe clean air? I should not have to be subjected to second-hand smoke, just because someone cant wait till they are by themselves.

My MIL's parents are big chain smokers. She has told me stories about how they would have burns on their arms b/c her parents would walk around with the cigarette down. She said the always had burns on their arms. To me that is ridiculous.

70707Bride
08-28-2006, 09:24 AM
I think that it is a good idea. Smoker's talk about their right to smoke. What about my right to be able to breathe clean air? I should not have to be subjected to second-hand smoke, just because someone cant wait till they are by themselves.

My MIL's parents are big chain smokers. She has told me stories about how they would have burns on their arms b/c her parents would walk around with the cigarette down. She said the always had burns on their arms. To me that is ridiculous.

Yeah, it seems like the non smokers don't have the right to be healthy anymore. Like I said, what about children and unborn babies? This one lady I work with has 4 children. I've only known her since she was pregnant with her 3rd. She smokes and the last time she was pregnant, she said she was going outside for a smoke break. I said, "well what about your baby?". She said, "Baby's gonna go outside and smoke too." I wanted so bad to just snap on her.

Kacie_bride
08-28-2006, 10:12 AM
There are definatly some people out there who don't care. But i think the number of people who do care out weight those who dont.

I agree with you. My mother smokes and she never smokes around other people who don't smoke except me. She didn't start smoking around me until I was 20 years old. She wouldn't have smoked in front of me then, but I told her I didn't mind if she did. She did not smoke during either of her pregnancies. And I would also like to add that most women smokers that I know did quit when they were pregnant.