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CarlosHoney
08-25-2006, 11:17 AM
I'm against it. I think that what happens between consenting, fully informed adults is their business. I think that if drugs were regulated by the FDA and taxed (Just like Alcohol and Cigarettes) there wouldn't be much of a problem.

My favorite comedian Bill Hicks says it best:

"I can't belive a war against drugs when they have anti-drug commercials on TV all day long followed by 'This Bud's for you.'"

“If you don't think drugs have done good things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them.”

“No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my *** off, and went about my day.”

“Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit . . . unnatural?”

“Your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs, I see through you.”

"Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I ****, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?”

http://www.lonestarmusic.com/artist_images/new_bill_hicks.jpg

MOB Karen
08-25-2006, 11:26 AM
I think there are some drugs that are illegal should be legal. I think the government goes overboard on some things. There are also many drugs that you need a prescription for, and I think you should get them over the counter. I think the "morning after" pill should be over the counter. And that is not an abortion pill, it will not work if you are already pregnant, it just won't let conception happen.

CarlosHoney
08-25-2006, 11:27 AM
I think there are some drugs that are illegal should be legal. I think the government goes overboard on some things. There are also many drugs that you need a prescription for, and I think you should get them over the counter. I think the "morning after" pill should be over the counter. And that is not an abortion pill, it will not work if you are already pregnant. It just stop conception.It's avalable now, if you're over 18!! :bbmrgreen:

CarlosHoney
08-25-2006, 11:28 AM
I think this quote is extraordinary:

"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself." - President Jimmy Carter (Message to Congress: August 2, 1977)

MOB Karen
08-25-2006, 11:28 AM
It's avalable now, if you're over 18!! :bbmrgreen:

You don't need a prescription?

CarlosHoney
08-25-2006, 11:29 AM
You don't need a prescription?I saw it on CNN!!!! :beer_smile:

MOB Karen
08-25-2006, 11:31 AM
I saw it on CNN!!!! :beer_smile:

That's wonderful!! I didn't know that they already approved it! Awesome!! That was definitely the right thing to do, in my opinion.

Kacie_bride
08-25-2006, 11:41 AM
I think drugs should remain illegal. I do think that marijuana can be used for medicinal uses, but that should only be available through prescription.

I think if all drugs were legal more young people would try drugs earlier because they would be easier to get. I tried cigarettes at 11 years old because they were easy to get. There was a gas station down the road that would sale them to anyone, so a 13 year old friend from the neighborhood went in there and bought them. I assume if cocaine was legal and sold there they would probably sell it to anyone as well. Then I probably would have tried cocaine at 11 years old. Legalizing drugs is just ridiculous in my opinion.

CindySue
08-25-2006, 12:13 PM
Ok....maybe Im straddling the fence on this issuebut here is my view. I dont think anything should be available to a minor. But after they are adults, and as long as they are not hurting anything or anybody, what they do in the privacy of their own homes, is their business and no one elses.
I dont use illegal drugs. Ive tried a few things in my life, but its been a long time since then. I do drink and I smoke cigarettes. My husband drinks and dips. Do I want my kids to do any of these things? Not really, but I know that once they are of age, my days of telling them what they can and cant do will be over.
I also know that most people want to do the things they are told they cant do. For the simple fact as "its my body and my life, and will do what I want."

ladymelissa
08-25-2006, 12:15 PM
I saw it on CNN!!!! :beer_smile:
I saw it on the news yesterday, too.

CindySue
08-25-2006, 12:19 PM
I saw it on the news yesterday, too.
I did too, but I thought they said it had been approved but wasnt going to be available until the end of the year. Minors will have to have a perscription, but I see the loop hole here. All they have to do is get someone of age to get it for them.

ladymelissa
08-25-2006, 12:34 PM
I also think all drugs should be legalized. I'm not saying you should be able to buy crack at the local Speedway, but it should be available somehow. Either some kind of facility simply for that purpose or with a prescription of some sort. At least it would be safer for those that choose to do it. Besides, one can get addicted to just about anything, coffee, food, prescription pain meds, you name it. It is up to the individual how they choose to conduct themselves and run their life. There should still be public service commercials and announcements regarding how dangerous it really is and how bad you could mess up your life and your body if you were addicted to heroine or cocaine. And there should definitely be age regulations, at least 21.

The fact that marijuana is illegal is just insane, it's safer than alcohol. That should be widely available and legal, like alcohol and cigarettes.

LaceyinPgh
08-25-2006, 01:35 PM
I'm all for legalizing drugs. You want to shoot up a speedball and risk stopping your heart, I'm not going to stop you. You want to puff on a pot joint, more power to you. It is less damaging than a cigarette. Go for it.

We spend approximately $600 per MINUTE on the so called war on drugs. HELLO! Do you know how many measles vaccines for third world children that $600 can buy? That doesn't include what it costs to house the drug prisoners in this country. Wow, those third world kids could not only have a measles vaccine but maybe a polio one too, and a few sacks of rice!

Our government's war on drug is ridiculous. Does anyone remember the Iran-Contra Scandal? (Please tell me that someone besides me remembers Iran Contra. I was like 7 and riveted to the television in disbelief of the morons who put that little thing together.) Our governemnt under the biggest anti drug president ever was caught funding the Contras by using US aircrafts and military bases to ship and store drugs. (This of course when we weren't selling illegal weapons to Iran.)

At this point though, it is a moot point. The drug underworld is o ground into mainstream American life that even if you did in fact legalize it, you would have a very hard and expensive time actually getting the drugs off of the street.

WebLady
08-25-2006, 02:28 PM
I think I pretty much agree with Lacey and Melissa on this one.

CarlosHoney
08-25-2006, 02:52 PM
I think drugs should remain illegal. I do think that marijuana can be used for medicinal uses, but that should only be available through prescription.

I think if all drugs were legal more young people would try drugs earlier because they would be easier to get. I tried cigarettes at 11 years old because they were easy to get. There was a gas station down the road that would sale them to anyone, so a 13 year old friend from the neighborhood went in there and bought them. I assume if cocaine was legal and sold there they would probably sell it to anyone as well. Then I probably would have tried cocaine at 11 years old. Legalizing drugs is just ridiculous in my opinion.I disagree. When I was 11 and 12, all of my friends were stoners. Illegality doesn't make it harder to buy drugs, especially since there is no legal age on the black market.

Kacie_bride
08-25-2006, 03:04 PM
I disagree. When I was 11 and 12, all of my friends were stoners. Illegality doesn't make it harder to buy drugs, especially since there is no legal age on the black market.

This is just one where we have to agree to disagree. That is really sad that your friends were stoners by that age. I just know how I was and I know if it was available at that store I would have tried it then too. For me, personally that would have been horrible. I can say with 100% certainty that because they are illegal it kept me from not doing them when I was 11.

CarlosHoney
08-25-2006, 03:12 PM
This is just one where we have to agree to disagree. That is really sad that your friends were stoners by that age. I just know how I was and I know if it was available at that store I would have tried it then too. For me, personally that would have been horrible. I can say with 100% certainty that because they are illegal it kept me from not doing them when I was 11.The thing that mainstream America has to understand is that pot isn't evil. It's not the most reponsible thing to do.. But hey, they weren't smoking crack.

George Washington grew marijuana. That is a fact. ;)

Kacie_bride
08-25-2006, 03:18 PM
The thing that mainstream America has to understand is that pot isn't evil. It's not the most reponsible thing to do.. But hey, they weren't smoking crack.

George Washington grew marijuana. That is a fact. ;)

I don't think it's evil. I didn't think this was a debate over legalizing marijuana. I think for medicinal uses it should be okay, by prescription. And our good friend George Washington also had slaves.

CarlosHoney
08-25-2006, 03:22 PM
I don't think it's evil. I didn't think this was a debate over legalizing marijuana. I think for medicinal uses it should be okay, by prescription. And our good friend George Washington also had slaves.No, no.. I think that all americans are confused and misinformed about all drugs.

But I do think that Marijuana has been out to be the Saddam Hussein of the war on drugs. It should be legal in my opinion..

AllyM1
08-25-2006, 10:05 PM
I love this quote you gave Carrie,

“No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my *** off, and went about my day.”

I completely agree with Lacey 100% that the money we spend on the so-called "War on Drugs," could be used in other areas. I feel that the possession of marijuana should be legal. To be honest, as someone who has smoked pot before and has enjoyed it, if the gov't regulated pot, there would be barely any THC in it and it would be worthless.

I feel if people want to drink, smoke cigarettes, snort a line or coke, etc, that is their decision and I am no one to tell them not to.

Drugs to me are like smoking when you are 18 and drinking when you are 21. When I was under 21 I was bad. Going to parties, drinking, etc. When I turned 21 and was finally able to legally do it, I rarely drink anymore. I think drugs are the same, in certain ways.

I have known so many people who have smoked pot and nothing bad ever happened. You can't find statistics on car crashes related to pot, but you sure has hell can find many statistics of people who are killed by drunk drivers, yet alcohol is legal.

The only bad thing about pot is that you get cotton mouth and you get a really bad craving for cheetos.

SoontobeMrsClark07
08-25-2006, 11:17 PM
I pretty much agree with Karen! I'm not going to go into a debate on it, because I cant talk about things like this, but I do agree with you Karen!

CarlosHoney
08-26-2006, 12:59 AM
The only bad thing about pot is that you get cotton mouth and you get a really bad craving for cheetos.I know, debilitating isn't it. Life ruining, awful, terrible, homewrecking devil weed. :rolleyes:

Valmai
08-26-2006, 06:42 AM
Again sorry i dont know ur laws or ur governments policies concerning drugs. We have recently downgraded cannabis and most people, over 18, caught with an amount deemed for private use just have the drug confiscated and get a warning (there are exception such as if they were caught near a school etc). Our drug strategy has changed over recent years and our Govt has accepted that total prohibition has not worked - drug use has in fact grown dramatically whilst we took this stance. There are now intitiatives in place to educate children, addicts are not automatically sent to prison or fined they are given medical help, there are several other changes in attitudes and punishment more inline with those of European countries and problems related to drug use have reduced - so far!
I feel that we need to accept that people use illegal drugs and we need to learn how to tackle the problems associated with this, rather that just throw people in prison where its likely to be easier for them to get these drugs. x

LizabethDavis
08-26-2006, 06:55 AM
I think that certain drugs (namely pot) should definitely be legalized. As bad as they say it is for you, I have never seen anyone total, wreck, flip, their car because they were high....I have seen them do it and even get killed while drunk.....