A bun in the Miller oven!

[starsthrumysoul]

Well... not yet!!!

I thought I'd give in and finally start my own TTC journal. It won't be long now before Paul is ready (that's all we're waiting on!). He's constantly telling me "we're almost there," so I know we're getting close.

We had always wanted to start TTC as soon as we got married (we were together for 6 years at that point). However, DH lost his job 2 days before the wedding (ugh!), so our plans have been put on hold. We both decided to wait until we were financially stable again, though my baby-wantingness has gotten the best of me and I have declared myself ready! I've already been to my OBGYN and been prescribed provera and clomid (I don't ovulate on my own) once we're ready. I've also bought a couple of books, have some free OPK's on the way (thanks to a fellow OW'er who posted a link!) and have bought a basal thermometer. Just waiting for the signal!

So.... here's to DH giving us the green light!!!

[FFC]

WOOHOO!!!! I'm excited for you Kristen! Good luck!

[Docsgirl]

Good luck Kristin! :crossfingers: I'll be crossing my fingers for that green light for you!

[ikkin510]

Congrats on getting the green light to TTC!

[uptowngirl]

That is so exciting!! Congrats Kristen! :crossfingers:

[Mrs.Johnson111111]

:crossfingers:Good Luck on putting a bun in the oven!!!

[gwenshack]

Good luck Kristin - hope you're well on your way to a quick :bfp:!

[Danielle9608]

I hope hubby finds a job soon and you get that green light!! :crossfingers::yesnod:

[NOTKT]

I'm glad you started your own thread! I read the title and started to freak out (in a good way!) Your time will come, I know it! Good Luck!

[gwenshack]

Just wanted to tell you we moved this thread to the journals section of family planning - didn't want you to think it disappeared! ;)

[Nekochanpurr]

Good luck!! :D

[WBandMe]

Omg, the title of this got me SOOO excited! I mean, it's still exciting, don't get me wrong....but pretty soon it'll be REALLY exciting!! Congrats on the green light!

[starsthrumysoul]

Omg, the title of this got me SOOO excited! I mean, it's still exciting, don't get me wrong....but pretty soon it'll be REALLY exciting!! Congrats on the green light!

Lol, I'm tricky like that :p

[starsthrumysoul]

So I woke up this morning and guess who showed her pretty lil face?? AF!!! I didn't take provera this month, so I THINK that means that the clomid is working, which MEANS that I won't have to take provera anymore!!! (I think that's what my doctor said... if that doesn't sound right, PLEASE someone correct me!).

It's exciting news for when we ACTUALLY start trying (though I'm off both provera and clomid until we DO decide to start trying again... I only took them for one month before we decided to hold off).

[FFC]

Good news!!!! Yayy!

[savepaws]

Yay that is great news! I'm glad things seem to be getting on track! I remember when I thought DH was getting close to giving me the green light. It didn't take long at all for him to get fully on board. I hope your DH will be ready very soon!!!

[Heywie]

OMG the title on this thread freaked me out! I thought I missed a major announcement somewhere!

I'm glad you're starting a journal. It will be an easy transition into a TTC journal once you start tracking all your info.

Best of luck! I hope DH is ready reallly realllly soon!

[Brian's Bride]

Jeepers! I, too, thought that you really had a bun in there! Congrats and good luck on everything!

[starsthrumysoul]

Well the time has come once again to have that monthly talk with DH about whether we want to start trying or to be careful (now that I'm no longer on BC). He once again decided to wait. I'm okay with that, and said that I'm excited for the day when he's as ready as I am. He gave me the impression that it won't be too much longer, and that kept my spirits high :p

In the meantime, I can live vicariously through all the other TTC ladies on this forum!!! :goodluck:

[savepaws]

Darnit! Too bad he doesn't want to start trying now but at least he gave you some hope!! Maybe next month!!!

[hisfuturewifey]

Maybe next month he will give you the green light! Either way, I hope he gives it too you soon!

[uptowngirl]

Oooh that waiting has to be tough! I didn't realize how much waiting was actually involved in the baby making process - waiting to start, the 2ww, and then nine months of waiting for baby! I guess waiting for the green light just gets you prepared!

[Heywie]

You just keep doing what you're doing and paying close attention to your body. Once he gives you the green light, you'll know all the signs to be sure it's time to take your clomid, BD, and wait for results!

I'm keeping a little extra special baby dust in my back pocket for the day you get the green light!

[starsthrumysoul]

I'm keeping a little extra special baby dust in my back pocket for the day you get the green light!

Lol, I love that!!

And you're right... I'm going to start temping and paying attention to my cycle, so by the time he's ready, I'll know exactly when to BD and test and all that.

Hopefully it won't be too much longer... I'm hoping he'll be ready right after the holidays.

[gwenshack]

Hey Kristin! I realized I haven't seen you on here in a while...just wanted to check in and see how you're doing! Pop in and say hey when you get a chance! :hug:

[FFC]

Good call Gwen! Kristin it'd be nice to know you're doing well! :)

[starsthrumysoul]

Green light!!!!

So we're on our way!!! I had mentioned to Paul back around the beginning of the year that I thought we should wait until after my trip to Italy to talk babies. In the meantime there were a couple of times where we would see a baby and I'd make a comment to him about how I couldn't wait to have one, but we never really talked about it.

Last night we were cuddled up, and I said "So, I'm back from Italy..." and he knew what I was talking about! He said "So does that mean you're ready for a baby?" And I said "Are YOU ready for a baby?" And he said YES!!! He said that he's been thinking about it more lately, that now that the puppy is growing up and not crazy anymore and that he has a job he feels that it would be a good time. So baby-making is a go!! :) We'll officially start once I get my prescriptions for provera and clomid filled. And I don't think we'll put too much pressure on it right away (though I know that I'll be testing once I'm taking those meds).

I'm so excited. Every time I see a baby, I just feel like my arms are empty. I've always wanted a family, and am so excited that Paul is ready. I told him all along that I didn't want to push him into being ready, that I wanted him to do this on his pace. I'm so excited that he's ready.
So... here we go!!!!!!!!:ura1:

[Danielle9608]

YAY congrats! I hope it happens for you two in no time!

[amisteratwisterandme]

Ah Congratulations for the start of your new adventure! How exciting and scary it all must be for you!

[Jacklynn]

Congrats, I hope the provera and Clomid do their job and you have a BFP in no time :)

[dizy1j62881]

yay!!! glad to hear your conversation went so well!! Thanks kinda how ours went, only we were driving down the road and he brought it up!!

[FFC]

I'm so excited for you!!! I'll be praying for you and hope that all goes well and QUICKLY in your TTC journey!!!

[Docsgirl]

That's so exciting!! :D I'll be hoping it's a quick little adventure for you!

[starsthrumysoul]

WHOA! The thought of peeing on a stick and seeing a BFP used to have my heart racing in the worst way... now it's going to be a good thing?!!?! I've gotta get used to that :laugh2:

Thanks everyone... You know I'll be keeping everyone posted!

[SkippyNXC]

WHOA! The thought of peeing on a stick and seeing a BFP used to have my heart racing in the worst way... now it's going to be a good thing?!!?! I've gotta get used to that :laugh2:

Thanks everyone... You know I'll be keeping everyone posted!


hahaha i know how you feel... for me BDing w/o a condom freaks me out the most LOL when we do remove the goalie, that's gonna take some serious getting used to...

even when i was on the pill it took a long time to get used to that...

[FFC]

for me BDing w/o a condom freaks me out the most LOL when we do remove the goalie, that's gonna take some serious getting used to...


IMO you'll never wanna go back :laugh2:

[Nekochanpurr]

Yay!! Congrats! :)

[Jacklynn]

IMO you'll never wanna go back :laugh2:

AGREED! x 1,000,000,000

[SkippyNXC]

ha! we did for years when i was on the pill and i do agree that its better w/o but DH is so anti-hormone BC... he says that even after we have a baby he doesn't want me to go back on the pill ever... :doh:

[gwenshack]

Good luck Kristin! I hope your TTC journey is a quick one! :ura1:

[Jacklynn]

So I woke up this morning and guess who showed her pretty lil face?? AF!!! I didn't take provera this month, so I THINK that means that the clomid is working, which MEANS that I won't have to take provera anymore!!! (I think that's what my doctor said... if that doesn't sound right, PLEASE someone correct me!).

Okay so I know this is from way back when, but I wanted to comment on it now with my experience, since I've taken several doses of provera and clomid now. This last time I took provera, and then did Clomid. I did not ovulate (my level was 5.9 when they want a level of 12) but for some reason I did get AF on my own. The previous times I didn't ovulate either and had to take provera to get AF. The only reason why you'd have to take provera a second time would be if for some reason Clomid didn't work the first time and make you ovulate.

But I think I'm just a weird case, I think most everyone else responds to Clomid and therefore they ovulate and as a result get a real, normal AF on their own 2 weeks later. My guess is back when you took it (I think you said this in November) you probably did ovulate which is totally fantastic!! Are you going to be going in for CD21 blood draws?

[starsthrumysoul]

My guess is back when you took it (I think you said this in November) you probably did ovulate which is totally fantastic!! Are you going to be going in for CD21 blood draws?

Not at this point. For right now we're just doing the Provera+clomid and BD on the days that she said to (which I can't remember off the top of my head right now). I bought a basal thermometer way-back-when, so I'll try temping too. My doctor said we'd try for 3 months, and if nothing happens then she'll change the hormone levels in the provera and clomid, try another 3 months, and if still nothing, then we'll look to other options (not really sure exactly what, though I'm open to anything that will help me get pregnant!).

[Jacklynn]

I would ask to get a standing order for CD21 blood tests so you know for sure if you are ovulating. I'm surprised she didn't write you an order for it. Also both provera and clomid dramatically raise my temp (usually around 96.5 to 96.8 and on both of those I'm in the upper 97's. So it is kind of hard (at least for me) to rely just on BBT to detect ovulation on those two drugs because it keeps it high until around CD 12-13ish and I take it day 3-7. That's just for me though, I dk if it raises everyone's BBT or just mine.

Are you starting on 50mg of Clomid? I have high hopes for you since the one time you took it AF came on time afterwards.

[starsthrumysoul]

Are you starting on 50mg of Clomid? I have high hopes for you since the one time you took it AF came on time afterwards.

Me too :) I think that was a really good sign! And yes, 50 mg. I wouldn't have known that, except I just got off the phone with my pharmacy to refill both Rx's, and she mentioned the dosage.

I dropped off Bailey (our puppy) at the vet today for spaying, and she'll be spending the night, so I think I will take Paul out for a nice dinner to celebrate our decision to TTC, though I'm sure he'll want to celebrate by getting some practice in :laugh2:

[Qtpie]

congratulations, and good luck. I cant wait to hear all about your getting a BFP

[savepaws]

Congrats! I'm glad Paul is ready to start TTC!! I hope it happens quickly for you!

[NOTKT]

That's great news! I can't wait to follow your journey!

[f77g4]

Good luck on your journey!

[jennybaby]

Oh good luck!! :hi: I just spotted this journal, and I guess right at a good time. ;)

[starsthrumysoul]

So I'm on day 2 of provera. I remember that the last time I started taking these pills I had hot flashes really bad. I really hope that doesn't happen again! My doctor said to start taking the Clomid on day 5 of Provera, but I've been reading online a lot that you usually start on day 3..... Can you start on either? Any idea which might be better?

One of my coworkers (who's office is right next to mine) has been trying to have a baby with his wife the last few months without success. He walked into my office this morning while I was popping my prenatal vitamin and we got to talking about it. Turns out his wife is just starting her first round of clomid right now too! It would be a small world if we both got pregnant around the same time!

And finally, I'm shamefaced in saying that I have been working for months (ever since Paul and I started talking babies) on creating a list of my favorite baby names. I've got quite the list!!!!!! Should we start talking faves??? Keep in mind that our last name is Miller...

Girls names:
Adelyn
Aurela
Braylin
Breckan (wonder where I got that one from?!)
Brenna
Brighton
Bristol
Brynne
Cadence
Carleigh
Chelsea
Ella
Elliana
Fiona
Gracelyn
Gwen (there's number two...)
Hailey (and look, number three!)
Isabella
Jacey
Jillian
Kahlen
Keely (what can I say, you've just got beautiful names!)
Keira
Kendall
Kenley
Leah
Leighton
Lila
Madelyn
Mckenna
Rowan
Rylan
Sophie
Tarin
Zoe

Boys names:
Ashton
Braydon
Brogan
Brycen
Caleb
Camden
Cameron
Carson
Chase
Corbin
Ethan
Finn
Gavin
Hayden
Holden
Ian
Jackson
Jonas
Jordan
Joshua
Julian
Kegan
Landon
Logan
Lucas
Parker
Peyton
Quinton
Rylan

[f77g4]

That is quite a list of names! I'd definately start talking with DH about them.

I had Brynn, Ella, Mckenna (for a middle name)and Peyton on my list too but Peyton was on my girls list. I also had Cameron as a middle name for boy.

Good luck deciding on names with DH. I'd be curious to know what DH's thoughts are.

[Danielle9608]

Fiona and Gracelyn are my favorites for girl and Chase is my favorite for a boy!! AWESOME names I have no idea how you are going to pick!

[Ninedays9]

That's quite a list of names! You've got my two favorites on there, Isabella and Ethan... but I may stray from them when the time comes because of how popular they got. And that's funny that you've got so many OW girls names, :).

[starsthrumysoul]

Lol, yes I know I have to bring DH into the conversation :) I'm taking it step by step with him. Once we get pregnant, THEN I'll let him know that I've been a maniac thinking of names for the past year :laugh2:

[Jacklynn]

So I'm on day 2 of provera. I remember that the last time I started taking these pills I had hot flashes really bad. I really hope that doesn't happen again! My doctor said to start taking the Clomid on day 5 of Provera, but I've been reading online a lot that you usually start on day 3..... Can you start on either? Any idea which might be better?

You are actually suppose to start clomid on day 3 of your period, it doesn't matter what day of provera you are on. So you might be on day 8 of provera but just started your period, so then you wouldn't take the clomid until the day after you stopped provera. Also some people start take clomid days 5-9 of their period, which is maybe why your doctor said day 5. He/She meant or should have meant Day 5 (or 3) of your period, not of taking provera.

I heard there is a better success rate in doing the CD3-7 vs. CD5-9, but I'm not sure if it really truly matters, I'm sure people have success with both. What I heard was that days 3-7 produces more follicles or whatever but days 5-9 produces a higher quality. Again who knows if that is correct or not though. I take my Clomid CD3-7.

I'm sorry provera gives you hot flashes. I actually don't get any symptoms from provera, but Clomid makes me not fun to be around, and I get hot flashes from it.

Good Luck!!

[starsthrumysoul]

Day 8 of Provera. Still no AF.

I can't remember the last time I took it what day AF showed up on. I hope soon!!!

[dizy1j62881]

well that stinks, maybe your AF is waiting for me next week!!!

[Heywie]

I just saw you got the green light! Congrats!! Best of luck in your TTC journey! I hope it's a quick one for you and this provera kicks in right away so you can get started!

[starsthrumysoul]

Thanks Haley :)

So I'm done with the Provera (I did the full 10 days, finished on 6/11), so now it's just a waiting game! I got a basal thermometer and started temping just this morning (I had planned on starting a few days ago, so left the thermometer on my nightstand, but my cat decided to steal it instead!). So I feel like we're on our way!! DH took me out to dinner and a movie yesterday, and said that he was excited to start picking out baby names.. I confided in him about my crazy list of baby names.. he said that he wasn't suprised because he knew how excited I was :laugh2:

We went to see "Take him to the Greek" last night (We were going to see Prince of Persia, but changed our minds at the last minute). At the end of the movie they rolled the credits, and I saw that the main character's name is Jonah... I think that's really cute, but DH used his first veto on it :laugh2:

I'm excited that this is finally happening for us!!!

[SkippyNXC]

YAY! good luck!! It's an exciting feeling waiting for AF to hurry up and start so you can get the ball rolling!

[Danielle9608]

We are excited too!! :ura1:Hoping you are not on this TTC journey to long!

[dizy1j62881]

men can be so goofy when it comes to names!!!! what i love and think is awesome, he doesn't!! how bout we make it a rule, when they do all the hard work then they can name the baby!!! lol!!!

[starsthrumysoul]

I am 6 days off provera and still no AF :rain: I've been patient so far, but if she doesn't get her but in gear I'm going to get a little cranky :urgh:

I started temping a few days ago, just so that I could start to get a baseline. Everything has been between 97.6 and 98. I'm really wanting to stay away from having to buy OPK's (man they're expensive!), so I'm going to rely on temping and observing discharge (sorry for the grossness there). Hopefully all of that together, I'll have a pretty good idea of when I'll be O'ing.

Any tricks of the trade are welcome!!!!!

[Danielle9608]

Hang in there Kristin, sometimes it took me 10 days off provera to get AF. I will be hoping she comes soon.

[SkippyNXC]

i have no provera advice but i watch my CM and also check my cervical position to monitor for ovulation... aaaaannd i share that info in my journal so don't worry about "grossness" lol these journals are filled w/plenty of TMI

its sometimes hard to tell the position (high-medium-low) but the two other signs (softness and open versus closed) are good indicators of impending Oing and pretty easy to determine...

[starsthrumysoul]

i have no provera advice but i watch my CM and also check my cervical position to monitor for ovulation... aaaaannd i share that info in my journal so don't worry about "grossness" lol these journals are filled w/plenty of TMI

its sometimes hard to tell the position (high-medium-low) but the two other signs (softness and open versus closed) are good indicators of impending Oing and pretty easy to determine...

I've never heard before about the cervical position thing... I'm going to have to do my homework!!! I think the more strategies I use to predict my O, the more secure I'll feel that I didn't just go buy an OPK :laugh2:

[SkippyNXC]

I posted this on my journal... it's VERY graphic... but if you reeeallly wanna learn about what your cervix is doin throughout the month go here: http://www.beautifulcervix.com/cervix-photo-galleries/photos-of-cervix/

if pictures of another womans cervix grosses you out take the free fertility friend course...

[savepaws]

Great name list!!! I definitely like a lot of the names on there.

[starsthrumysoul]

Sooooooo.... I got AF last Friday, the 18th. I forgot how much menstrual cramps hurt!!!! (I haven't seen AF in like 9 months!). Saturday night we went to visit my family for father's day... I whined the whole way home and once we got back laid down with a heating pad over my belly... that really felt nice! So now it's on to Clomid. I forgot to take it on day 3, so I held off until today (day 5) because I know that you can do either.

I've been temping still, and it looks like everything's right on schedule!!!!!! Before AF, I was consistently temping around 97.8, and ever since AF I've been at 97.3 every single day. It makes me happy when I can see how things are SUPPOSED to be (AF arriving, ovulating, temping) and know that I'm on track. Hopefully this will all pay off really soon!!

DH has been making more and more comments lately about how he's excited that we've made this decision and can't wait until we get pregnant... It really warms me to know that he's as excited as I am :)

[FFC]

It's awesome when you have your DH's support isn't it! I would think it'd reduce at least some of the TTC stress. :congrats: on getting AF and seeming like everything's on schedule! Good luck this cycle!!!

[Danielle9608]

I am so glad to hear everything is right on track and DH is excited. Hopefully this month will end your TTC journey!

[gwenshack]

:goodluck: I hope you get that bun in the Miller oven soon! :bun:

[starsthrumysoul]

:goodluck: I hope you get that bun in the Miller oven soon! :bun:

Haha, thanks Gwen! I love the cupcake picture too!!

[Brian's Bride]

Good luck with everything! And I never mentioned it before, but I REALLY liked your baby name list! :)

[starsthrumysoul]

Good luck with everything! And I never mentioned it before, but I REALLY liked your baby name list! :)

Haha, thanks Breckan :flower4u:

So we are in BD mode at the moment. I'm still temping, and my temp was WAY lower today than it has been in recent weeks (96.9 compared to 97.3ish or higher). I think that means I'm getting close to the big O? I should be ovulating around Friday, but I didn't take my last Clomid pill (I dropped it down the sink drain :doh: I could have gone to the pharmacy to ask for another pill, but got lazy. I'm not sure how that's going to affect my ovulation this cycle, but I guess we'll see!

On a very TMI side note.... I'm NOT liking not washing up right afterward. It feels gross to me to just lay there. I'm just trying to give ourselves the best chances of conceiving and have read that if you wait 5-15 minutes to wash, you give the sperm time to travel and do their thang. The weirdest part is that after a few minutes of just laying there (instead of washing right away) I start to get a burning sensation. And then even for a while afterward (TMI), my "area" throbs. This has never happened before, and I'm wondering if it's normal??

[FFC]

I hear ya on the washing thing! Try putting your rear up on a pillow, that might help ;)

[Goin2thechapel]

On a very TMI side note.... I'm NOT liking not washing up right afterward. It feels gross to me to just lay there. I'm just trying to give ourselves the best chances of conceiving and have read that if you wait 5-15 minutes to wash, you give the sperm time to travel and do their thang. The weirdest part is that after a few minutes of just laying there (instead of washing right away) I start to get a burning sensation. And then even for a while afterward (TMI), my "area" throbs. This has never happened before, and I'm wondering if it's normal??

Never had the throbbing issue, but yea...Nothing about TTC is glamorous :( LOL... The burning sensation, could that be because you're dry? I know sometimes chaffing can be an issue.

[starsthrumysoul]

Never had the throbbing issue, but yea...Nothing about TTC is glamorous :( LOL... The burning sensation, could that be because you're dry? I know sometimes chaffing can be an issue.

I really don't think that's it.. that's happened before. It's weird because I'll be fine right afterward, and then like a minute later my skin will be burning. I saw this thing on t.v. once where a woman found out that she was allergic to her husband's... stuff... I'm wondering if it could be something like that?!

[FFC]

I really don't think that's it.. that's happened before. It's weird because I'll be fine right afterward, and then like a minute later my skin will be burning. I saw this thing on t.v. once where a woman found out that she was allergic to her husband's... stuff... I'm wondering if it could be something like that?!

You know, the thought crossed my mind, and it wouldn't hurt to get it checked if it hurts that bad... I sure hope that's not the case though :rain:

[firespirit]

On a very TMI side note.... I'm NOT liking not washing up right afterward. It feels gross to me to just lay there. I'm just trying to give ourselves the best chances of conceiving and have read that if you wait 5-15 minutes to wash, you give the sperm time to travel and do their thang. The weirdest part is that after a few minutes of just laying there (instead of washing right away) I start to get a burning sensation. And then even for a while afterward (TMI), my "area" throbs. This has never happened before, and I'm wondering if it's normal??

So if it's uncomfortable you might try just kind of wiping up the outside area with like a dry kleenex or something, because honestly the ones way down there really aren't going to swim all the way back up. The ones near your cervix are there and as long as your not reaching up to wash out...

[starsthrumysoul]

So if it's uncomfortable you might try just kind of wiping up the outside area with like a dry kleenex or something, because honestly the ones way down there really aren't going to swim all the way back up. The ones near your cervix are there and as long as your not reaching up to wash out...

That makes sense.. I think from here on out I'm gonna have to try that. TMI ALERT: The throbbing didn't stop until the early afternoon, and it's still burning when I wipe.

[FFC]

How often does it happen Kristin? Does it happen every time or has it just started? Maybe there is something else going on (UTI??? Rash??) that isn't even related to not cleaning up afterwards....

[starsthrumysoul]

It just started like the last few times DH and I have BD'd. It's definitely not a UTI. Do you think I could have a yeast infection?? I'm not itching at all...

[starsthrumysoul]

So I'm CD 18 today. I'm really not sure if I've ovulated. Normally I can feel it (like which side it's on and everything) and this month, nothing. I'm wondering if me not taking the last day of my clomid had enough of an impact that I didn't ovulate. I hope not!

I have been lax on temping. The problem is that I'll wake up at like 5 in the morning to pee and forget to temp. Then by the time I get up at 7 it's only been 2 hours since I've been sleeping and the temp won't be valid. I did temp on Sunday morning and my temp was 97.5, which was kinda between my high and low temps, so maybe I did ovulate? I don't know...

DH and I bd'd all week long to cover our bases. He asked me last night if I thought I was pregnant. I told him that I thought if I got pregnant I would feel different, and I don't. I'm sure that means nothing, but I think I'd be surprised if we were pregnant this month.

There's no way I'll be able to last 14 dpo to test though!!!

[Danielle9608]

Don't worry about not feeling different. When I got pregnant I felt no different until maybe the day before I found out and some of that may have been because of all the crazy drugs I was on. I am praying that you get a BFP this month!!

[firespirit]

I think that it's pretty unlikely to feel different until at least implantation occurs, which isn't until at least 5 days after conception.

Even then, the first symptoms of very early pregnancy are the same as PMS symptoms, so I'm not sure that most women would really be able to tell much of a difference anyway.

[starsthrumysoul]

I think that it's pretty unlikely to feel different until at least implantation occurs, which isn't until at least 5 days after conception.

Even then, the first symptoms of very early pregnancy are the same as PMS symptoms, so I'm not sure that most women would really be able to tell much of a difference anyway.

Thanks for that - I don't know why I didn't think of that part. I mean, I know that there's no reason you would "know" (unless you're really in tune to your body's flux of hormones or something like that). For some reason, though, I still feel like this wasn't our month. I don't know why... maybe because I didn't feel myself ovulate like I usually do.

[starsthrumysoul]

So I'm CD 24 today. My cycles are religiously 28 days, so I'm pretty sure I ovulate around CD 14, which would put me 10 DPO. Like I said before, I didn't feel myself ovulate this month (which I usually do) so I think it's a bust. I bought a few tests anyway, and decided to test this morning after a VERY vivid dream last night that I tested and it was positive. BFN. Not a big surprise given that I'm only CD 24.

This is where I'm a little frustrated. DH is the epitome of what people call "laid back." BUT when he gets excited about something, he will go all out on it and research it until he practically becomes a quasi-expert (he's such a computer guy). I talked with DH last night because I feel like although he says he's ready for a baby, he doesn't seem to be excited about it. The way I see it is that he's very passive. He never talks about it until I talk about it. He hasn't talked about planning in any way, nor has he done any of the typical researchy things I would expect of him. When I bring it up then OF COURSE he says he's ready and then will talk about it. I just feel like he's being very passive about it. Like this last weekend when we went to his parents. He asked probably 12 times in an hour if I wanted an alcoholic drink (his dad was making margaritas). I persistently said no and finally told him WHY I was saying no. At that point it was like "oh yeah," but I would have thought that would have already been in his head at that point.

This morning after I tested he walked into the bathroom and looked at the test on the counter but didn't say anything about it. My face must have said it all because he asked me what was up. I said that I had tested even though it probably wouldn't show up yet if I was. He said "well then why would you do that?" I mean, I understand where he was coming from, but knowing how excited I am, I would have expected him to understand why I was eager to test.

He said that once we actually get pregnant, he will probably be gung-ho on baby planning.

Is this a typical man thing??

[dizy1j62881]

My DH is the same way...for some reason they are like..."eh....whatever" at least thats been my experience. I just noted in my journal that I tested like 3 times over the weekend and BFN each time...

[Danielle9608]

My DH was fairly involved in the TTC progress but he didn't really go out of his way to research things or ask me how things were going. Even now, he still doesn't do a lot of research, but he will ask me questions about baby stuff from time to time. Maybe because he knows that I will do the research myself weather he does or not. Could this be how your DH is feeling?

[ikkin510]

My hubby was totally like that when trying. And he is the type that likes to research thing too. I think it was his way of being disconnected and not getting hopes up too much so that if we kept getting negatives he wasn't as disappointed and upset. KWIM? Once I did get pregnant he was much more into reading everything and researching baby things, talking about it, etc. Although i wouldn't say completely over the top until I started showing and he could feel the baby move. Makes it more real then I guess.

[firespirit]

I think it's kind of a guy thing. The whole thing isn't really real to them until later. Even now it was kind of weird in the difference between telling his parents and telling mine. I told mine nearly right away after getting on the phone with them. He had a 15 minute conversation about other stuff before he told his mom and then a 30 minute conversation about other stuff before he told his dad. After he told his dad, his dad replied, "You've had me on the phone all this time and waited this long to tell me?" I can tell DH is excited, but still worried something is going to go wrong, so I think he's holding back.


On other things DH like never does the research I do, he just waits for me to look it up and tell him :)

[starsthrumysoul]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. That really puts my mind at ease as far as his involvement. I know he's going to be a great dad and I know that once we actually get pregnant it will be different.

On a side note.. I needed to make an appt. with my gyno for a lady problem. It works out good because it's on the day that I should get AF. If I haven't by then, that means either that I'm pregnant or that the provera didn't work this last month.. Either way, it'll be convenient that I'm already there to talk to her :bbbiggrin:

[starsthrumysoul]

So I had my gyno appt today. I talked to her about how I was due for AF today, but had no indication that I was about to get it, and didn't feel myself ovulate this month. I tested this morning with a cheapo test - BFN. SOOO she had me go get blood drawn to 1) see if I'm pregnant (which I don't think I am), and 2) to check my progesterone levels to find out if I ovulated. I'll be happy to find out any result at this point... worst case scenario is I didn't ovulate and will get a higher dose of clomid. No problem. It worked for me in the fall, so I know it'll work again. Best case scenario - I'm pregnant!

At this point I'm feeling pretty good :biggrin:

[Danielle9608]

Did you find out the results yet??

[starsthrumysoul]

Not yet! The office doesn't open til 9. I figured I'd give them a little time to settle in and then call later in the morning - maybe 11 or 12.

I really doubt that we're pregnant, but can't get the thought out of my mind that it IS a possibility!

I've been having really mild, really sporadic cramps all weekend though no sign of AF.

I asked DH if he'd want me to call him with the results.. I was surprised when he replied with an excited yes - he doesn't like getting personal calls at work!

[starsthrumysoul]

Okay, now I can't concentrate.

I know that the chances of us being pregnant already are very slim. But now I can't help but think "what if we are?"

I just called my OBGYN's office (I couldn't wait). The nurse wasn't available, so they took my info and said that she would give me a call.

I once saw something on America's Funniest Home Videos about how to tell people you're pregnant, and I've always thought that if the timing were right, this is what I'd want to do. In the video, it was a man's birthday, and his family was all around him, his daughter and son-in-law included. When it got to the part of the birthday song where they say "happy birthday dear dad," the daughter and son-in-law belted out "happy birthday dear grandpa." Everyone stopped singing and looked at them for a second before realizing that she was pregnant. WELL my mom's 50th birthday is August 22nd, and we're having a surprise bday party for her on the 20th with a whole bunch of friends and family there. It would be the PERFECT time to do it! I know that she wouldn't be one of those people to feel like we stole her day from her.. she's been asking for a grandchild ever since DH and I got engaged!! I just think it would work out too perfectly. And since it's like 5 weeks away, it would give us some time to celebrate on our own.

Will update once I hear something!

[dizy1j62881]

awe Kristin I hope it comes back good for you!! My sis just got her BFP on saturday and so hopefully this will start, between her and Carrie, another round of baby boom!!!

[savepaws]

I hope they get back to you soon with the results! That would be awesome if they tell you that your pregnant!

[starsthrumysoul]

So this month was a bust :bbrolleyes:

On to the next month.

[dizy1j62881]

oh pickles...fingers crossed for next month(for us and jacklynn)!!!!

[savepaws]

Darnit. Were they able to tell you if you ovulated?

[Danielle9608]

Aww I'm sorry Kristen! Did you at least ovulate?

[gwenshack]

So this month was a bust :bbrolleyes:

On to the next month.
Next month is my birthday - for my present I'm gonna ask for you and Jacklynn and Jeri and Nicole and Teri and everybody else trying to TTC to get pregnant already! :confetti: Here's some baby dust by the truckload.

[starsthrumysoul]

Next month is my birthday - for my present I'm gonna ask for you and Jacklynn and Jeri and Nicole and Teri and everybody else trying to TTC to get pregnant already! :confetti: Here's some baby dust by the truckload.

Lol, you're such a generous birthday girl!!!!

No, I didn't ovulate (they said my progesterone level was reeeeally low). They gave me the option of whether or not I wanted to jump to a higher dose of clomid. I decided to go ahead with it. Soooooooooo... on to the next round!!!

[Danielle9608]

Good luck Kristen I am hoping the high dose will help! What are you taking now 100mg?

[starsthrumysoul]

Good luck Kristen I am hoping the high dose will help! What are you taking now 100mg?

Yep.

I had hot flashes on the 50 mg. I hope they don't get worse with the higher dosage, otherwise this will be me --> :hothead: (haha, just wanted to use that smily!)

[LuLu86]

Yep.

I had hot flashes on the 50 mg. I hope they don't get worse with the higher dosage, otherwise this will be me --> :hothead: (haha, just wanted to use that smily!)

Yeah i hope you dont have 'hotter' hot flashes either! Next month is your month girlie!

[LuLu86]

hey what days is the doc having you take your clomid?

[starsthrumysoul]

3-9. Last month I goofed and did 4-10.

[Jacklynn]

I had hot flashes when I started taking Clomid at 50mg. I was worried that when I jumped up to 100mg that I would have them even worse. I didn't. In fact my hot flashes were the worst the first 3 months.

[starsthrumysoul]

I had hot flashes when I started taking Clomid at 50mg. I was worried that when I jumped up to 100mg that I would have them even worse. I didn't. In fact my hot flashes were the worst the first 3 months.

Ooh, that's a relief. I'll be starting my next round of clomid in about a week (since I didn't ovulate last month, I had to do provera again to kickstart my cycle). Good to know that if I'm like you I won't have to worry about it!!!

[starsthrumysoul]

So I'm on day 9 of Provera. I've got the next month or so mapped out! I should probably see AF around 8/3, which means clomid starting on 8/5. If everything goes as planned and I have my usual 28-day cycle, I'll be ovulating around 8/17, and will be looking to test around the very end of August.

I like having a plan :coolblue: I'm planning on using the OPKs this month and throwing out the temping. Hopefully the OPKs will be reliable so that this month goes smoothly.

[SkippyNXC]

woot we may be near-cycle buddies... my AF is due on 8/7 if she comes like normal!

[starsthrumysoul]

woot we may be near-cycle buddies... my AF is due on 8/7 if she comes like normal!

Lol, e-synching :rofl:

I'm hoping that we have another round of women getting pregnant all at the same time like we had several months ago.. it's so nice having other women going through the same thing and being able to relate to one another.

[LuLu86]

girl im on CD32 and havent started YET! aargh! i hope we do have another OW babyboom! :geek:

[dizy1j62881]

This sucks!!! You girls about a week ahead of me know for cycle :( i miss my cycle buddies, but carrie started the trend with the recent BFP!! Hopefullly we'll all get one soon!!

[SkippyNXC]

whens ur AF due? i've lost track... plus who knows i could possibly not get my period for up to 6 weeks before they'll give me anything to kick start it...

[firespirit]

I agree we need another boom around here!

[Jacklynn]

This sucks!!! You girls about a week ahead of me know for cycle :( i miss my cycle buddies, but carrie started the trend with the recent BFP!! Hopefullly we'll all get one soon!!

I'll be a little further out than you - if I were to have a 28 cycle (which isn't all that likely since this cycle is unmedicated and I didn't have 28 day cycles medicated) I'd be due for AF August 19th. Maybe there will eventually be a boom of BFP week after week :)

[starsthrumysoul]

Maybe there will eventually be a boom of BFP week after week :)

THAT would be fun!!!!!!!!! The thought of seeing a string of BFP's has me tickled pink :rassberry:

Today was my last day of Provera, so if all goes like it has in the past I should get AF around 8/3 or so. I'm SO ready to get this next month started!!!

[Jacklynn]

Hopefully provera and Clomid do what they are suppose to do and you have a BFP very soon!

[Danielle9608]

Good luck Kristen! I am praying that you get a BFP this cycle! I agree we are over due for a baby boom!

[starsthrumysoul]

So I looked at my last cycle to get a better of estimate of when to expect AF. Last cycle AF came 7 days after my last day of provera, so it looks like this cycle I should expect her on 8/6 (this Friday). I hate all this waiting (and I'm sure you girls can relate).. waiting for AF, waiting to ovulate, waiting to test. I'm not a very patient person to begin with, so this is tough!!!

[Danielle9608]

Waiting just sucks in general. I am a pretty patient person and I hate to wait. Hopefully AF hurries up and gets here soon!

[dizy1j62881]

I'm with you on the waiting. I'll keep fingers crossed that AF shows up on time, or you get a BFP!! Have you tested yet?? or are you unsure if you ovulated yet??

[starsthrumysoul]

I got AF today :confetti: That means that in about two weeks I'll be ovulating... hopefully!!! Like I said before, we're using the OPK's this time. Cross your fingers that I actually ovulate this month!!!

[dizy1j62881]

WooHoo!!!!!! C'mon eggies!!!! Time to Ovulate(in 2 weeks!!!!)

[gwenshack]

I got AF today :confetti: That means that in about two weeks I'll be ovulating... hopefully!!! Like I said before, we're using the OPK's this time. Cross your fingers that I actually ovulate this month!!!
:ura1: My fingers and toes are crossed! :goodluck:

Here's some baby dust for you, my dear! :confetti:

[FFC]

I got AF today :confetti: That means that in about two weeks I'll be ovulating... hopefully!!! Like I said before, we're using the OPK's this time. Cross your fingers that I actually ovulate this month!!!

Not many people understand our rejoicing for AF's arrival LOL!

YAY for AF!!! :confetti:

[jennybaby]

:confetti::confetti::confetti::confetti::confetti: :confetti::confetti::confetti:

Lots of baby dust to you!

Hooray for AF, now we just need the Big O! Good luck!!

[starsthrumysoul]

Hooray for AF, now we just need the Big O!

Haha, I really appreciate the rhyme :laugh2:

[LuLu86]

YAY AF!!! what days are u taking clomid this cycle? OPKS worked really well for me last time once i had them figured out!

[f77g4]

Woohoo congrats Kristin!

[Danielle9608]

Yahoo. I am praying this is going to be your lucky cycle Kristen!!

[starsthrumysoul]

Me too! I mean we're only technically on month 2. I know that it can take a while. But I think all of you who have been TTC can relate that every month seems like a grand possibility, even that first month. So we'll see :)

Started Clomid yesterday - I'm taking it 3-7. My doctor upped the dose, so I'm now on 100 mg. No hot flashes yet... I'm really hoping that holds out.

I haven't looked at my OPK yet. What day do you typically start testing with them?

[SkippyNXC]

depends on cycle length... my cycles are between 30 and 31 days so I start around CD 14 or 15.... i think there's a chart somewhere where i got that day....

http://www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/inovtesstrip.html (scroll down a tad n u'll see the chart)

[starsthrumysoul]

Today is CD 11. I started using the OPK's this morning (I typically have a 28 day cycle). It was negative, though there was a faint line. I'll keep testing and hopefully get a good indicator that I've ovulated around the end of the week.

I had some pretty bad hot flashes this time around. It got so bad that I actually left work in the middle of the day to go home (only about 10 minutes one way) to get one of our fans to put in my office! Even now still I feel flush a lot.

I'm crossing my fingers that it's a good week!!!!!

[dizy1j62881]

Whoo-hoo for hot flashes!!! That is good sign right?? and a faint OPK???!!!?? OMG Kristen hopefully this will be your month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!!!!

[starsthrumysoul]

Whoo-hoo for hot flashes!!! That is good sign right??

Haha, not necessarily.. it's just a side-effect of the Clomid. I had them last month too, and I didn't ovulate (which is why they upped my dose this time around).

I've also been having episodes of nausea the past week or so. I'm wondering if that's also a side-effect of clomid. Any idea?

[Jacklynn]

Hot flashes with Clomid were awful for me. Mine were mostly in the middle of the night and I'd wake up and be horribly hot and my shirt would be totally soaked, yuck!

Hopefully they go away soon for you and that the Clomid does the job!

[LuLu86]

I've also been having episodes of nausea the past week or so. I'm wondering if that's also a side-effect of clomid. Any idea?[/quote]

I had some nausea after my clomid but bad hot flashes during. :hothead:

[Danielle9608]

Hot flashes are to worst! What helped me a lot when they would happen was to put a cold wet cloth or paper towel on the back of my neck. I had to do it in the bathroom though because I don't have an office and I didn't want people asking questions. Good luck Kristen! Sending you lots of O dust!

[starsthrumysoul]

Good luck Kristen! Sending you lots of O dust!

Haha, thanks Danielle :D

[starsthrumysoul]

So I read last night online that you're supposed to test with OPK's in the afternoon, like 2 p.m., having something to do with the fact that your surge happens around that time. So this morning I didn't test, but I forgot to bring one with me to work. So now I won't be able to test until I get home, which will be around 7 tonight.

BUT I noticed just now (TMI) that I've got some clear, non-stretchy CM. Looks like a good sign!!!

[Jacklynn]

I hope you O soon!

[SkippyNXC]

Yeah you're supposed to test between like 11am and 7pm or something so you should be fine tonight....

the only caveat is ur supposed to test at the same time every day... b/c your body naturally cycles its levels of LH thru the day...

for me testing around 2:30 worked best

[Danielle9608]

I usually tested when I got home from work at 430ish.

[starsthrumysoul]

I finished up my OPK's today, testing around 3 every day since I realized you aren't supposed to do it first thing in the morning :bang_head:. Today is CD 16 and still no indication that I'm going to ovulate. I'm going to get another OPK and see if the next few days bring anything. Cross your fingers for me!!!

[Danielle9608]

Hopefully you are just O'ing late this cycle! Good luck Kristen!

[starsthrumysoul]

I counted wrong.

Today is CD 18. I started a new OPK today. It's different than my last set - last time I used the big stick-like tests, this time around it's a long, thin strip of paper. I'm hoping it's just as reliable.

Anyway, big negative.

My doctor said before that she likes to try for three months at each dosage before moving on to the next step if someone doesn't ovulate. In my mind - what's the point of trying for two more months if the current dosage doesn't make me ovulate the first month? Could it possible work the second or third month??

[firespirit]

My doctor said before that she likes to try for three months at each dosage before moving on to the next step if someone doesn't ovulate. In my mind - what's the point of trying for two more months if the current dosage doesn't make me ovulate the first month? Could it possible work the second or third month??

I think with some fertility meds the effects can be somewhat cumulative, so I do believe it's possible to ovulate on a later cycle at the same dose.

[Danielle9608]

I think with some fertility meds the effects can be somewhat cumulative, so I do believe it's possible to ovulate on a later cycle at the same dose.

I agree, clomid is a cumulative drug, it tends to stay in your system. However with that being said it also can thin out your urine lining, so you may ovulate but still not get pregnant. If you are concerned I would bring it up to your doctor. Every doctor has a different practice with clomid. I seemed to had a really aggressive doctor (which I liked) she would only do one month at a current dose and if it didn't work up it to the next one.

[starsthrumysoul]

Today is CD 19.


I need another opinion on my OP. I know the pictures are blurry, I'm sorry for that.

The first picture shows the stick untouched.
In the second picture, I adjusted the contrast.

They looked the same to me, until I adjusted the contrast.


Ugh, I'm reading WAYYYYYY too much into this.......

[Danielle9608]

Looks like a positive OPK to me.

[SkippyNXC]

Looks like a positive to me as well... go get BDing young lady!!

[FFC]

BD away lady that's too close to a positive not to take advantage of it!!!

[gwenshack]

I meant to tell you - two nights ago I had a dream that you were like super duper pregnant. I'm not psychic or anything, but maybe it's a sign. :rofl:

:goodluck:

[starsthrumysoul]

I meant to tell you - two nights ago I had a dream that you were like super duper pregnant. I'm not psychic or anything, but maybe it's a sign. :rofl:

Lol, I LOVE it!!!!!!! I normally don't believe in that stuff but... I'm too excited not to run with it!!

:frantic::wub::rofl::cloud9::ura1::crossfingers::p ray::yesnod: <--- This is me right now!

[starsthrumysoul]

I just texted DH "I think we're ready to dance!!!!"

I wonder if he'll know what that means :shrug: :laugh2:

[SkippyNXC]

I just texted DH "I think we're ready to dance!!!!"

I wonder if he'll know what that means :shrug: :laugh2:

the first time i got a positive i sent DH a text: "The egg is about to drop!!"

HE ha NOOOOO clue

[starsthrumysoul]

So today is CD 20. I'm going to due another OPK today to see if the results are even stronger. I've always been able to feel myself ovulate, so I'm really waiting to see if I can feel it this month. This morning I had a little bit of discomfort where I normally feel it, though nothing major.

Now on the flip side... My nipples are really tender. So I thought "great, maybe this is a symptom of impending ovulation!" WRONG - it's a symptom that you have recently ovulated. I know it's not exact science or anything, but what if I ovulated and the OPK's didn't pick up on it and I've missed my window for this month! DH and I only BD'd twice in the last week..

Ugh, I hope the next stage in the process (actually being pregnant) is less frustrating!

[Danielle9608]

Remember you get a positive OPK 24-48 hours before you actually ovulate. So you just got a positive. Keeping BDing! Good luck Kristen!

[starsthrumysoul]

Remember you get a positive OPK 24-48 hours before you actually ovulate. So you just got a positive. Keeping BDing! Good luck Kristen!

Thanks, Danielle. We definitely will again today.

I took an OPK this morning and it was like the faintest line I've seen yet. I'm going to take one at my normal time (like 3ish) to confirm, but it looks like I'll be ovulating very soon!!

[SkippyNXC]

If it's faint today u may very well be Oing today... or its possible you could have O'd last night depending on how long your normal LH surge is...

[brendalin]

BD away! Can't hurt! :rassberry:

[LuLu86]

thats what i did the first month and i missed my window. i didnt realize i could ovulate so late. keep up the bd'n!

[starsthrumysoul]

I'm kinda disappointed with DH.

Last night I went to a girlfriend's hosue after work (this has been planned for a couple weeks) to go to dinner and have her put highlights in my hair. It took a lot longer than expected, and I didn't get home til 10:30. DH had just gone to bed because he worked an 11 hour day (mandatory overtime). He said he was too tired to BD, but promised that we could in the morning. That's fine - I totally understand being too tired for sex.

But then this morning he wakes me up at 7:10 (he usually leaves around 7:25) and says that he has to leave for work. I ask him if we have time to BD and he tells me that he's going to be late. He usually doesn't leave that early, so I don't what the deal was. I'm kinda annoyed that he didn't make this a priority. I mean, he knows that I ovulated yesterday (I texted him). I'm almost wondering if this is his way of telling me he's not really ready without actually having to say it. Or maybe I'm just paranoid and it's nothing. I guess I'll talk with him tonight about it.

I've been having ovulation pains since yesterday. I don't think they've ever lasted this long!

[f77g4]

Aww I'm sorry Kristin!

[Danielle9608]

I'm sorry Kristen! Hopefully he will be in the mood tonight!

[firespirit]

I'm sorry Kristen, that sucks. But don't lose hope. The cycle I got my BFP I didn't think it was going to happen because DH and I only DTD like twice before ovulation anywhere near my fertile window.

[gwenshack]

I'm sorry Kristin! :( I hope he was just overwhelmed with something at work or something.

[SkippyNXC]

I'm sorry Kristin! :( I hope he was just overwhelmed with something at work or something.

or he may not GET how important it is to BD when the egg drops?

either way :bang_head:

[starsthrumysoul]

or he may not GET how important it is to BD when the egg drops?

I thought about that too.

I cut him some slack about it. When I told him that I was disappointed that we didn't BD that morning and that I wondered if that was his way of telling me he wasn't ready, he came over to me and hugged me and kissed me and told me that that definitely wasn't the case. He's an easy man to read, and I have no more doubts that he is now just as ready as I am!

We DTD last night, and it was the best it's been since we started TTC.

On another note, (like I said before) I DID feel myself ovulate this cycle. The weird part though is that the pain has lasted for like 2 full days now (it started about 48 hours ago), where it usually only lasts a few hours. And last night while we were BD'ing, it hurt pretty bad. I'm wondering if the clomid has something to do with it, or if it's something else. I guess only time will tell!

[Danielle9608]

Clomid can do a lot of funky things to your body, mostly likely it had something to do with your discomfort. Good luck and lots of BABY DUST!

[starsthrumysoul]

So today is CD 25, 4 DPO.

The pain from ovulating never went away. It's a really sharp, very localized pain (on the lower right side of my abdomen). It hurts to do anything with my abdominal muscles - sneezing, blowing my nose, coughing. It kinda hurts to have a full bladder, but REALLY hurts when I empty it. Saturday night it got really bad. I took some tylenol, which helped a ton and I was able to get some sleep.

This morning I woke up to all-over cramping. I decided on Friday that if the pain was still around by Monday that I would go to the doctor. I wasn't sure if I should see my regular doctor or my OBGYN, but I called my OBGYN since this all seemed to happen following ovulation. I can't get in with my own doctor, but will be seeing a nurse at 11:30 today.

I'm actually hoping it's appendicitis so that I can just get the thing taken out and move on with my life.

[Danielle9608]

Oh no! I am sorry you are still in pain! I hope you feel better soon and the doctor can figure what this is.

[starsthrumysoul]

So I met with the nurse. Of course while I was there I wasn't in much pain, but she did the exam and said that most likely I have a cyst. I know that other ladies on here have gone through this so it doesn't seem like a big deal. She said that I will likely develop one (or more) every time I ovulate and then they'll break and redevelop the next cycle. She's sending me for an ultrasound just to make sure it's not big, otherwise I'll just be managing my pain with some ibuprofin.

Sounds good to me :)

[Danielle9608]

Ah that makes a lot of sense. Yup, I get them too and they really do hurt. After a while you will get to know that pain. The first time it happened I was worried I had a ectopic pregnancy or something. Heating pad really help me, and warm baths. I hope you feel better soon!

[firespirit]

I hope you feel better soon!

Are the cysts more common in women taking clomid?

[Danielle9608]

I hope you feel better soon!

Are the cysts more common in women taking clomid?

Carrie as far as I know, No, but clomid can make cysts grow larger.

[f77g4]

oooh that is painful! I had one rupture in high school and at first the docs thought I had appendicitus.

Feel better soon!

[LuLu86]

Aw im sorry ur in pain! When i was reading how you described it i was kinda like 'yeah thats exactly how i feel'. I just thought it was because of the clomid....let us know what it turns out to be!

[starsthrumysoul]

Well the pain is just about gone, so I'm guessing that the cyst burst or just isn't being bothered anymore. Either way, I'm good to go for the moment!

DH and I agreed to test on Saturday... at that point I'll be 10 DPO. I have no cheap tests in the house... only expensive digitals. I think that will keep me from wanting to test every day :doh:

So......... cross some fingers and toes for me on Saturday!!!

[f77g4]

Good luck Kristin!

[Danielle9608]

Good luck Kristen!

[LuLu86]

good luck!:horseshoe:

[Jacklynn]

Good luck! I hope things work out for you this cycle.

[starsthrumysoul]

Today is CD 31, 10 DPO (or so I think). DH and I decided to test this morning.

**TMI ALERT**

So I sit down and take the test and lay it a couple feet away on the bathroom sink. I go back to the toilet to wipe and there is a little bit of blood. It's really really bright pink (not like the usual red/brown from a period). My thoughts are that it could possibly be implantation bleeding!! So I wait the 3 minutes for the test and... BFN. Not even a HINT of a line.

I'm wondering if it's still too early. The test said that it can detect pregnancy 6 days before a missed period. If I'm at 10 DPO, then I should only be 4 days away from my next cycle.

Four hours later, I'm having some cramping. I'm wondering if AF is already here (though the bleeding stopped after that little bit this morning).

I have no clue what's going on with my body.

[starsthrumysoul]

I just got done reading through this site online about implantation bleeding. I'm now feeling a little more...... educated, I guess you would say.

Now I'm confident that it's EITHER implantation bleeding, or my period coming on. Only time will tell, I guess!

[f77g4]

Good luck Kristin!!! It may have still been too early even though your test said otherwise.

Are you going to keep testing?

[starsthrumysoul]

Definitely!!! We decided on Tuesday.

BUT I have tomorrow off, and DH is working. I don't think I'm going to be able to avoid testing tomorrow! I figured that if it turned out to be positive tomorrow, then I could spend the day thinking of a cute way to tell him when he gets home!

And if it's negative, then at least I can mope at home :notsure:

[dizy1j62881]

Oh Kristin How exciting!!!! Fingers Crossed!!!!!

[f77g4]

oooh good luck!

[Danielle9608]

Good luck Kristen!

[starsthrumysoul]

No such luck. The bleeding came back full force. I took another HPT to make sure. This definitely wasn't our month.

The good thing is that since I already have AF, it won't be long until I ovulate and we can try again :) I'm just confused about my cycle. Ovulating on CD 21? And then AF on CD 31? Something's not right...

[SkippyNXC]

yeah 10 days is a really short luteal phase.... I would put in a call to your doc... w/all i've learned about conception, it's almost impossible for implantation to occur if your LP is 10 days (note: ALMOST, 10 isn't IMPOSSIBLE b/c implantation occurs 7-10 days after O)

[starsthrumysoul]

yeah 10 days is a really short luteal phase.... I would put in a call to your doc... w/all i've learned about conception, it's almost impossible for implantation to occur if your LP is 10 days (note: ALMOST, 10 isn't IMPOSSIBLE b/c implantation occurs 7-10 days after O)

I think I'm going to see what happens this month and then call if this cycle is like the last one. I MAY have been wrong about when I ovulated because I wasn't using the OPK's right in the beginning (I was testing with FMU, and I guess you aren't supposed to... so much for reading the instructions!!!). Plus, I THOUGHT I felt myself ovulate (like I usually do), but that could have just been the cyst.

I don't know.. we'll give it one more try and if my luteal phase is that short again, I'll be putting a call in to the doc!

[SkippyNXC]

hmm lol looks like we both had unclear O-date months... must have been something in the OPK water... (or pee i guess LOL)

i'm still debating whether I O'd on CD 19 like FF says or CD 20 or even 21 like i think my temp says... OPK was REALLY pos on CD 19 but i don't buy that thats when i O'd

[starsthrumysoul]

hmm lol looks like we both had unclear O-date months... must have been something in the OPK water... (or pee i guess LOL)

i'm still debating whether I O'd on CD 19 like FF says or CD 20 or even 21 like i think my temp says... OPK was REALLY pos on CD 19 but i don't buy that thats when i O'd

Ugh, I hate that all of this stuff (the temping, the testing, the CM) is all so... vague and imprecise. It leaves a lot of room for error (and frustration!:bang_head:)

[starsthrumysoul]

Today is CD 18 and still no sign of ovulating. I've been testing and have yet to see anything but the faintest of lines.

I told DH last night that if this month is like last (with a late ovulation and a short luteal phase), then I'll contact my doctor and ask her what I should be doing (if anything).

[gwenshack]

Good luck Kristin! I've been following along but haven't been commenting too much - just wanted to let you know that I'm still here and still rooting for your BFP. :hug:

[f77g4]

Same here!

All the best Kristin!

[starsthrumysoul]

Good luck Kristin! I've been following along but haven't been commenting too much - just wanted to let you know that I'm still here and still rooting for your BFP. :hug:

Haha, thanks Gwen! I don't post much during the 2ww between CD 1 and ovulating, and then again between ovulating and testing.. but it's nice to know that I have people in the background cheering for my body to get it together!! :p

DH is getting antsy to BD. I've been holding out on him for like a week and a half... NOT because I want his "stuff" to accumulate (because I've read that's not a good strategy to go that long), but because I've heard that if the woman "enjoys" the BD'ing, there's a greater chance of conceiving. And I tend to "enjoy" BD'ing the longer we go without.

DH is also talking more and more about baby stuff lately, which makes my heart just melt into a puddle. I love this man!!!

[starsthrumysoul]

CD 23.

I had a TINY bit of cramping this morning that COULD have been ovulation, but I'm not convinced.

This is getting a little frustrating. I think that at the end of this month I'm going to call my doctor and see what I can do to get myself to ovulate WHEN I'm supposed to ovulate.

[Danielle9608]

Yea not ovulating by CD 23, while mediated doesn't seem to be right. What days are you taking the clomid?

[brendalin]

DH is also talking more and more about baby stuff lately, which makes my heart just melt into a puddle. I love this man!!!

Awwwwww... that is so sweet!!!! Good luck this month!:crossfingers:

[Jacklynn]

Are you getting CD21 blood draws? If not see if they will do a blood draw, and then you may need to go on provera/prometrium to start a new cycle.

Sorry, I don't remember. What cycle is this for you with Clomid?

[starsthrumysoul]

This is cycle 3 of the clomid. I didn't ovulate the first month, but did last month on CD 21. The problem is that I got my period on CD 31, which left me with a really short luteal phase.

No, I'm not getting blood drawn. My doctor told me to give it three months and then we would get together and review. I guess it's about time I should be giving her a call. I don't mind the appointments - the copay for me is only $10. But the blood draws cost me $40 each time.

[Danielle9608]

Maybe it's time to up the dose or talk about a different medicine. Good luck Kristen!! Let us know what they say.

[Spatch4Officers]

Good luck Kristin - I'm praying for a BFP for you soon!!!!!!!

[Jacklynn]

I'm surprised they would let you be medicated and not have a blood draw.

I'm sorry it cost $40 for each blood work, that really stinks.

[starsthrumysoul]

So... I finally heard back from my doctor today, and she's referring us to an RE.

I called last Thursday to ask my doctor about what I should do given that I had been on Clomid for 3 months with mixed results. As a recap:
Month 1: 50 mg., no ovulation
Month 2: 100 mg., ovulation!
Month 3: 100 mg., no ovulation :blink: :confused:

Initially my doctor told me that I would be on clomid for 6 months before referring me to an RE if it did not work. My doctor was out on Thursday, and the nurse told me that she wanted me to see an RE. I asked to wait until the following day so that the nurse could speak directly with MY doctor. Well I got the call this morning that my doctor wants to move forward with the referral.

So I called and made an appointment with the RE for the 27th at 2. They said that DH doesn't need to come with me. All the appointment times that they had would conflict with his work schedule, so I just made one that works for me. I assume he'll need to go at some point, but I can do this one on my own.

What should I be expecting? Just information? Tests? A plan??

[Brian's Bride]

I went to my first RE appointment with Brian, but it was more informational, along with family histories. They scheduled Brian's sperm analysis and told me to call them when I was on CD 3 so they could take blood samples and do an internal U/S. So Brian went ahead and gave the sample and I remember going in and discussing the results. Then I went by myself for the blood work and internal U/S and found out I was actually PG! So I was a pretty easy case for them... LOL.

Going to a RE is a great first step and then you guys can come up with a plan of attack. Good luck!

[Danielle9608]

YAY for getting a appointment! Not sure what to expect from your RE but I can tell you how my experience went. They wanted both myself and Jon there. It was a little over an hour. We talked mostly about mine and Jon's medical history. Then she ordered tests for both of us. They tested us for all the genetic diseases we could be prone too. They also gave us both HIV tests. They setup a appointment for Jon's sperm analysis. And setup a appointment for a HSG for me. After all the tests were complete we went back to discuss the results and then came up with a initial plan. Obviously for me the first plan didn't work out, so after not responding I went back and we came up with a second plan that worked!

[starsthrumysoul]

Okay first off, all of our OW ladies going into labor this week has me all the more excited to get that BFP!!! :bbbiggrin:

Second, my appointment today with the RE went REEEEALLY well!!! They told me that Paul didn't need to be there for the first appointment, and since it's really hard for him to get time off, I went on my own. The doctor was VERY friendly and down to earth. My paperwork hadn't yet gotten there from my OB's office, so he asked me a lot of questions about my menstrual history and TTC so far. He said that he was curious to see my uterus and ovaries, so he did an internal ultrasound right on the spot!!! It was so fast! He pointed everything out to me. Two weird things - he could not find my left ovary (bizarre! Though he chalked it up to me having a full bladder), and he showed me all the cysts on my right ovary. It was crazy.

So we went back to his office and devised a plan. I'm going to go get some bloodwork taken tomorrow (fasting so he can check my glucose levels too). Paul is going to do the thing in the cup (trying not to be vulgar). He said I could call Friday by 10 in the morning for all the results :) If everything looks okay, he wants to go ahead with Clomid at a higher dose (150 vs. 100). Then he said something about giving me an injection at a certain point to induce ovulation, and then he will inseminate me with some of DH's "stuff." I feel like this is a great plan - not too laid back, not too aggressive (though he talked about more aggressive measures later down the road). He really assured me that this (or something!) is going to work. It felt really good :)

SOOOO happy birthday to our new kiddos on the block! Hope you have a little friend by this time next year!!!! :crossfingers:

[f77g4]

Yay for a plan Kristin! I hope you're in the next round of BFP's!!!

Good luck with all the tests!

[gwenshack]

Wow, sounds like a great appointment! :jphappy: Sounds like we'll be seeing that :bun: in the Miller oven sooner than later!!

[Spatch4Officers]

Oh man that's great news Kristin!!! Hoping there's a bun in the Miller oven very soon!!!!!! :hearts::hearts::hearts:

[Brian's Bride]

Whoa, that was fast! Getting the ultrasound, I mean! Soooo happy for your first appointment and getting a plan together. I'm glad you clicked with the doctor, that's awesome!!

[jennybaby]

Sounds like a GREAT appointment. Yay. I'm glad you have a plan and like your doctor. Now we're all praying for that BFP!!

:hug:

:heart::hearts:

[starsthrumysoul]

Thank-you, ladies! I am so excited to be able to share this process with such wonderful women :yesnod:

I went and got my blood drawn this morning... I've never had such an easy and painless draw.. it was awesome :)

DH was running late this morning so didn't do his part, but I'll make sure he does tomorrow. The doctor said those results only take 3 hours so we'll know everything by tomorrow afternoon!!!

[amisteratwisterandme]

A plan is awesome! I hope it all works out for you!!

[savepaws]

Good luck! We are all rooting for you!!!

[xxeverafterx3]

Good luck!!!:crossfingers::crossfingers: Keep us updated! Thoughts and wishes going out to ya!!! :)

[brendalin]

Sounds like you guys have a great plan in place! :crossfingers:

[Jacklynn]

Glad your blood draw went well!

[starsthrumysoul]

So I called yesterday for the results, as he asked me to do. He told me that he'd relay them over the phone and if everything came back good I could start taking the provera.

So the nurse called and told me that everything with the sperm analysis came back normal (YAY!!!).

BUT she told me that the doctor did not want her to discuss my results over the phone - he wanted me to make an appointment to come in and speak with him. I think my heart just sank. So I made an appt. for Tuesday the 2nd.. it's at like 1:30 or something.

I don't know what it could be that they couldn't discuss over the phone.

[xxeverafterx3]

Hoping everything is ok hun!!!! Please let us know if you need anything from any of us!!!! Fingers crossed for you!!

[gwenshack]

I can understand your anxiety over him not wanting to give you results over the phone. That would make me crazy. I'm sure everything is going to be fine though, so don't try to dwell on it until you find out. Okay? That's an order! :hug:

[f77g4]

Glad DH's count is ok. I'm sure your test will be fine as well.

Good luck on Tuesday!

[Spatch4Officers]

If DH hubbies test came back ok then I wouldn't worry too much but I completely understand what you are saying about not knowing why they can't tell you whats going on over the phone - I HATE THAT!!!! :realmad::realmad::realmad: I hope everything is ok deary - keep us updated!!!

[starsthrumysoul]

So today at 1:15 is my appointment. I had been fine until today. Then on my way to work I started thinking about all the things that he could possibly have to tell me and now I'm in panic mode. I guess it's natural, and I'm happy that I'll know by this afternoon what the heck is going on.

[brendalin]

So today at 1:15 is my appointment. I had been fine until today. Then on my way to work I started thinking about all the things that he could possibly have to tell me and now I'm in panic mode. I guess it's natural, and I'm happy that I'll know by this afternoon what the heck is going on.

Good luck at your appointment! Everything will be fine, just try and stay positive!!! :hearts:

[Jacklynn]

Good luck! I will be checking back in later.

[Spatch4Officers]

Hope your appointment went well - I'll be checking back later on...

[f77g4]

Hope you made out well at your appt!

[starsthrumysoul]

Aww, thanks ladies... it's nice to have the support here. As close as I am with my girlfriends, I just feel like they wouldn't understand what I'm going through.

So there was some good news and bad news for DH's tests.. His motility is at 26% (they like it to be 50%), and he only had 13% that were normal shape (they like 30%). BUT, they like to see 25 million sperm and he had 98 million... so the volume made up for the lack of motility and shape :yesnod: DH was okay with the news

Sooooo.. my tests showed 4 things:
1) Everything was consistent with PCOS (which just further confirmed it)
2) My testosterone levels were a little elevated, but nothing concerning.
3) My thyroid levels were highh. He said that they like lower numbers for women trying to get pregnant.. no more than 3.. mine was 4.6. So he put me on a medication for it.
4) My insulin levels were VERY high - he said some of the highest he's ever seen. I'm really not surprised, I guess.. I'm overweight and have low blood sugar spells every now and again. He put me on a medication for that too.

He said that both the high insulin and high thyroid levels are making it easy for me to gain weight (which is what I've been doing the last few years), and that these medications will help me to lose some of it. I was happy to hear that.

I'm not going to go crazy gung ho on a new diet or anything, but I know that I need to start watching what I eat.

I thanked him at the end of the appointment because I was SO happy that he didn't tell me that I wouldn't be able to have kids. He said that I take bad news really well :p

[gwenshack]

I really like your doctor! Sounds really thorough and I'm glad the news was hopeful on the kids front.

[Jacklynn]

Is Metformin one of the meds he put you on? I really feel like Metformin helped us get pregnant. I certainly wouldn't worry about DH's results - Matt's was close the same his motility was something like 13% but since he had like 75 million it equaled out kind of like you said - and one of them caught and egg :)

My testosterone is elevated as well, which I think is part of PCOS (at least mine).

When I jumped up to 1500mg of Metformin a day after going off of Clomid, I think it kept me ovulating and was a big part of me getting pregnant, so if they didn't put you on Metformin, you may want to ask about it. I also have a uterine lining issue, so I also think the baby asprin they put me on helped a lot too.

I hope you join me soon in being another PCOS woman who has gotten pregnant :)

[f77g4]

Glad the news was nothing overly devastating and I love your happy reception of it.

So other than the pills for the testosterone and insulin, is there a plan to get you a BFP or should those pills do the trick?

[amisteratwisterandme]

That's actually great news! Now you can work on getting yourself healthy, and maybe caught things early enough to not cause damage later on.

I'm with Jacklynn too. We need to get you and Brenda knocked up soon:yesnod:

[jennybaby]

Woo hoo for good news! I'm glad they shed some light on your weight problem and the meds should definitely help you lose some. Hopefully they'll also make it easier for you to get your BFP!! :crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:

[starsthrumysoul]

Hehe, yea I was really okay with all this news!!! I was just so nervous he was going to tell me that I couldn't have kids at all... I guess anything but that news didn't sound so bad :p

To answer some questions.. He did put me on metformin. I actually went on it a couple of years ago for the same reason (although at that time my insulin levels were just slightly elevated) and it made me sooo nauseous.. so I went off it. He told me this time around to take it before bed instead of in the morning.. hopefully that will help!

I will still have to take clomid and provera to get me menstruating and ovulating, so in all I'll be on those two plus the metformin for the high insulin, plus something for the thyroid. What a cocktail!!!

I had a nice conversation with DH last night about all this, and for the first time he actually had some conviction in his feelings about everything. He said that he felt like we hadn't given ourselves enough of a chance to get pregnant without the insemination, and wanted to at least try to do it naturally first.. I felt happy that he was actually expressing his feelings, and we agreed to hold off on the insemination for a bit. So I will do the provera and clomid to get my cycle kicked off, but we'll continue to try naturally for a few months. I hope this will work for us!!!

[Spatch4Officers]

Oh i hope so too! I hope this medicine helps and if it's going to get you healthy in the long run then 2 thumbs way up!!! Good luck - I agree with the other gals - we need to get you and Brenda knocked up sooon!!!!! hehe :hearts::yesnod:

[starsthrumysoul]

I've been stopping by the board infrequently lately. DH and I hit a little speedbump in our relationship and I've been somewhat depressed lately. We've got some work to do before we move forward with the baby plans, so we're taking a little break. We love each other and just want to make sure that we're in the best possible place with each other before we bring a baby into things. We're trying to go the mature route. We both know what kind of disaster it could bring to add a baby into a fragile relationship.

DH isn't willing to return to the marriage counselor, so I'm going on my own. I actually took a personal day on Monday because I was feeling so down, and luckily he got me right in!!! I think I'm starting to clarify what it is that I need to work on, and what it is that I need from DH. Right now I'm not sure whether to be hopeful or not. I know that neither of us are even close to giving up, but whether or not we have what it takes to make it work, or whether or not we're both willing to put forth the effort remains to be seen.

So thank-you ladies for following us thus far. Hopefully it won't be long before we're back at it!!

[f77g4]

Oh Kristin I am sorry....all the best to you and DH!

[Danielle9608]

I am so sorry Kristen to hear that you two are having a difficult time. I will keep you in my thoughts love! :hearts:

[amisteratwisterandme]

I sure hate to hear that Kristin! Hopefully you guys can get back on track soon. It's tough when the relationship isn't where you want it to be.

[Spatch4Officers]

Awe I'm sorry to hear this. But hearing that you are willing and have been going to counseling to try and make things better and bring your relationship to where it should be to bring a child in this world is so comforting to here, I'm glad to hear that you are putting your relationship first... I will keep you both in my thoughts and prayers, Luv ya girly!