Masons...long one sorry

[Kacie_bride]

I am a little upset right now. Justin has been working a lot lately and we've hardley seen each other. We live together and it seems the last month we see each other for an hour a day and then we go to sleep. He's been working at least 6 days a week for the past month. So I called him and asked him if he would be home on time this evening and he said no. I expected him to have some sort of meeting or something, but he said he had to go meet with Pots.

Pots is his "mentor" or something for the Masonic Lodge. This irritated me because I was like you can't come spend the evening with me instead you have to go spend time with an old man!

Justin decided a few months ago that he would join the Masons. He asked me what I thought and I know nothing about it so I didn't care. Now that he's into it I HATE it! There are things he can't tell me about it and really I think it's really stupid. A bunch of grown men call each other brothers and have secret meetings. He made fun of fraternities in college and now he is in one!! And I just found this certificate on his desk here at home and this is what is really funny... the title of some man who signed the certificate is Worshipful Master. How freaking ridiculous is that. The only being that I feel is worthy of calling Worshipful Master is Jesus Christ. I think this little boy club he is in is stupid.

The main point is I hate the Masonic Lodge and I wanted him to come home instead of go there.

[MOB Karen]

Ok, it sounds spooky. Is it like a cult? I don't know what Mason's are, but I don't like the titles. Does anyone else know what they are? I say Justin better get his *ss home and be with Kacie!!! Evidently, she needs him more than they do! They probably wouldn't even notice if he didn't show up today. They will have other "Masons" to take his place!

[Kacie_bride]

He has a lot of Masons in his family. They say they do charity work, but from what I know they are a group of men who have meetings and have secrets. I don't know what they do. They have once a month meetings where it is open to the public. I don't want to go though. Most towns have a Masonic Lodge. Haven't you ever heard of Shriners. They wear those funny looking hats. Anyway a Shriner is like some Mason that is very high ranked or something. I don't know exactly.

[ikkin510]

When I worked in a printing shop after high school we printed up a bulletin type thing for a local Masons group. I read it every now and then, and I agree, it was just odd. They don't celebrate birhtdays as in regualr age. Around here, you weren't "born" until you joined the lodge. It was just really odd. There are a bunch of diffent titles for different improtant memebers...like the worshipful master. They do a lot of great work for the community, but some of the stuff in the bullietin just seemed...odd. Not something that I would trust completely.

[Kacie_bride]

I really don't trust it completly. Just because he dad was a mason, his grandpa, and his uncles does not mean that he has to be one too. I don't like it.

[WhiskeyGirl]

I would just remind him in relationships you don't keep secrets! If he can't handle that and tell you what the hell is going on, then he'd better get his arse out of that stupid club or find himself a new woman...plain and simple! Thats the way it would be with Matthew and I. Ya know how they say a stag should be top secret, I call BS on that one. Matt told me every detail!! I think if a stag is got to be top secret then something was happening that shouldn't!! Secrets kill marriages!! No matter how big or how small. Friends tell me secrets but I tell them point blank that I don't keep anything from my husband and he doesn't keep anything from me. If they don't want Matt to know, then they don't tell me!!! But back to your matter at hand, it also sounds like a cult to me. Do they do love bombing too??? Lots of hugs and stupid garbage like that!! Take a stand Hun!! You are more important then this silly club!! Good luck!

[LaceyinPgh]

The Masons are harmless. My grandpa was one. It really is just a big boys club to hang out in. They have all their "rituals" to make themselves feel self important.

There are all kinds of great conspiracies theories about them because so many powerful and importnat people are members. Some poeple think that htey secretly rule the world, were invovled with the Kennedy assasination, ect. Lots of silly stuff like that. I think Dan Brown's new book that is coming out is about them. I can't wait to read that one.

Just let him go and have his fun. He will get bored with it soon enough.

[Kacie_bride]

I would just remind him in relationships you don't keep secrets! If he can't handle that and tell you what the hell is going on, then he'd better get his arse out of that stupid club or find himself a new woman...plain and simple! Thats the way it would be with Matthew and I. Ya know how they say a stag should be top secret, I call BS on that one. Matt told me every detail!! I think if a stag is got to be top secret then something was happening that shouldn't!! Secrets kill marriages!! No matter how big or how small. Friends tell me secrets but I tell them point blank that I don't keep anything from my husband and he doesn't keep anything from me. If they don't want Matt to know, then they don't tell me!!! But back to your matter at hand, it also sounds like a cult to me. Do they do love bombing too??? Lots of hugs and stupid garbage like that!! Take a stand Hun!! You are more important then this silly club!! Good luck!


It's not serious enough for me to give him an ultimadium. I was just upset that he didn't come home when he has been busy so much with work. It's just he has this clinic on Saturday and then on Sunday he leaves for Victoria for a meeting. I hate his job. He's always gone. He's applied for other jobs. In fact he sent a resume in today for another job. I was really hoping he would get the veterinary pharmaceutical job he applied and interviewed for, but we haven't heard yet.

It does seem cultish to me, but in the end I do think they are harmless. I just don't like to be left out and I don't like to sit here at home alone waiting for him to come home any more than I have to. He's invited me to come to these dinners that they have, but I don't really believe in it so I'm not going to go.

[WebLady]

I really don't trust it completly. Just because he dad was a mason, his grandpa, and his uncles does not mean that he has to be one too. I don't like it.

That seems to be how many get into it.

A friend of DH's is big into the Masonic lodge. My feelings on it, it is just weird and not something I would want my friends or family involved in. I am not going to say too much about it but I have read alot about it and I don't think it is a good thing to be involved in. I would have a big problem if my DH was a Mason.

If you have a problem with this I would definitely talk to your FH about this. Like Shawna said, the secrets are a bad thing (one of many about Masons IMO)

Good luck!

[Valmai]

We have the masons over here too - very secretive and difficult to get into - usually as is prob the case with ur FH Kacie they get recommended by family. They protect their members very well often at the expense of others. Like everyone else says i dont like anything that has to keep secrets so badly - most secrets are kept 'cos they are bad IMO lol
Valmai xxx

[darkangel090260]

frist do any of you have history channel if so they have a special on the Masonic lodge. they are also called the freemason and they have been arround for a very long time sinces the 17th centery. If you are not educated on a subject then you should not speake about it . It has quite a few very well know member and alot of powerfule member a quite a few presedents have been member and so on so please eduacated your self befor you speak

[Kacie_bride]

We have the masons over here too - very secretive and difficult to get into - usually as is prob the case with ur FH Kacie they get recommended by family. They protect their members very well often at the expense of others. Like everyone else says i dont like anything that has to keep secrets so badly - most secrets are kept 'cos they are bad IMO lol
Valmai xxx

I believe they orginiated in Europe and were brought over here by the founding fathers of our country like George Washington and Ben Franklin. Justin says the only secrets they keep are their ceremonial rituals and he had to swear on the Bible to not tell anyone about it.

Bottom line is..I don't like it. It's a family tradition and I don't think I'll get him to get out of it. I know about the protecting part. A lot of powerful people in our area are members.

I guess it is just one of those things I don't have to like, but I have to live with it. I will never go to one of those dinners with him or be a part of it in any way. I am opposed to it and I will stand my ground.

I've talked to him about it and I am not going anywhere because of it. He'll just have to keep that part of his life separate from me. Like I said I'm not having anything to do with such nonsence.

[WebLady]

frist do any of you have history channel if so they have a special on the Masonic lodge. they are also called the freemason and they have been arround for a very long time sinces the 17th centery. If you are not educated on a subject then you should not speake about it . It has quite a few very well know member and alot of powerfule member a quite a few presedents have been member and so on so please eduacated your self befor you speak
I for one have seen and read many things on the Masonic Lodge/Freemasons. I know people in it and I have known of people that got out of it. Just because famous and/or powerful people are a part of something doesn't mean it is right or good for everyone. Many people don't know everything about it until they are so far into it that it is hard to get out. IMO secrets are bad, period. I am not going to say much else about it as to not start anything. You are entitled to your opinions but you should realize and accept that some people may have different ones.

... Justin says the only secrets they keep are their ceremonial rituals and he had to swear on the Bible to not tell anyone about it.

Bottom line is..I don't like it. It's a family tradition and I don't think I'll get him to get out of it. I know about the protecting part. A lot of powerful people in our area are members.

I guess it is just one of those things I don't have to like, but I have to live with it. I will never go to one of those dinners with him or be a part of it in any way. I am opposed to it and I will stand my ground.

I've talked to him about it and I am not going anywhere because of it. He'll just have to keep that part of his life separate from me. Like I said I'm not having anything to do with such nonsence.

I wouldn't be able to handle a situation like this if it was my man. IMO you shouldn't have to just accept something that makes you uncomfortable, it is not like he likes Football and you don't KWIM? But, you have to do what you feel is right and what you can 'live' with ... none of us can tell you what to do with your life and your relationship.

You came to us for support and/or to vent about this so we are here for you. If I were you I would do some research online and find out the good and bad of the Freemasons and come to your own conclusions. I wish you all the best!

[Kacie_bride]

Brandi, I have researched it some and I can live with it. It bothers me, but me personally I can live with it. Yesterday I was upset with the issue of it because I felt it was taking time from me. I still don't like it, but it is one that I can live with. Thanks everyone for all the support though. It's good to have a place to vent.

Dark Angel, I felt your comment was a bit rude. Like Brandi (WebLady) said, we all the right to our opinions. You do not know how educated we are or are not about it. Even if we are uneducated we have the right to have a bad feeling about it. And we speak about it to get some insight from others on the subject. You have every right to post your feelings on this topic or any other, but not in a rude manner. We welcome you to join in any conversation as long as you are respectful to all members of this forum. We all respect eachother and everyone's opinion here. Please keep our forum positive and well mannered.

[MOB Karen]

frist do any of you have history channel if so they have a special on the Masonic lodge. they are also called the freemason and they have been arround for a very long time sinces the 17th centery. If you are not educated on a subject then you should not speake about it . It has quite a few very well know member and alot of powerfule member a quite a few presedents have been member and so on so please eduacated your self befor you speak

darkangel, this is a discussion forum, and we are discussing. If you don't like the discussion, you don't have to participate in it.

[WebLady]

I agree with Karen and Kacie about the comments from our new member. Lets not start any drama over the rude, blunt or ill prepared words of others.

One of the things I love about this place is that we are all adults here and everyone is usually courteous and respectful of each other, even when we disagree on something, even a somewhat 'touchy' topics such as this.

Kacie, it seems you have come to terms with this issue ... I wish you all the best!!

[countrygirl]

Kacie, I have never heard of the "Mason's" before, but it doesn't sound like it's somthing good. Who care's if presidents have been in it. They aren't always reputable. Why would you join a 'secret society' and hide secrets from your family or your spouse?? Sorry, don't mean to be cranky on that one. I am a person who does not handle lies (not saying that he lies to you) or secrets well.

Good luck w that one girly!!!

[countrygirl]

darkangel, this is a discussion forum, and we are discussing. If you don't like the discussion, you don't have to participate in it.

Karen-----YOU GO GIRL!!!!!

[MOB Karen]

Karen-----YOU GO GIRL!!!!!

Well, when you approach people with rudeness, you ought to expect to get rudeness back. That's how I see it anyway.