Darfur

[Kacie_bride]

I urge everyone to visit this site below and take action. There are things going on in the world that many people know nothing about. What is happening to these children in Darfur is unimaginable. I sent an electronic postcard to President Bush to urge him and the rest of the U.S. government to take more action to stop the genocide going on in Darfur. On the site there are different ways you can help. I think the best way is to get the word out to everyone and to send the electronic postcard. You can even order postcards if you want to.


http://www.savedarfur.org/action/

[MOB Karen]

I'm sorry, but I was completely ignorant of Darfur. It's like we go about our daily lives here in America and don't even begin to realize the suffering that is going on in the world. How sad. Thanks, Kacie! I will send an electronic postcard as well.

[WebLady]

I have never even heard of Darfur. It is really sad that there is bad stuff happening all over the world and I wish I could make it all better but I can't.

This may sound harsh to some but I would rather see more government aid in our country ... there is disease and poverty and all sorts of bad stuff here too. Granted not as bad as in some 3rd world country but that is not really the point. I just think sometimes the government and those people who always have to have a 'cause' just want to make themselves feel good by helping people in another country when there are people that need help out here too.

I don't know, maybe I am wrong in thinking that way. I don't want to start some 'heated' discussion here ... I am thankful for what I have and I pray for the rest of the world.

[WhiskeyGirl]

I have never even heard of Darfur. It is really sad that there is bad stuff happening all over the world and I wish I could make it all better but I can't.

This may sound harsh to some but I would rather see more government aid in our country ... there is disease and poverty and all sorts of bad stuff here too. Granted not as bad as in some 3rd world country but that is not really the point. I just think sometimes the government and those people who always have to have a 'cause' just want to make themselves feel good by helping people in another country when there are people that need help out here too.

I don't know, maybe I am wrong in thinking that way. I don't want to start some 'heated' discussion here ... I am thankful for what I have and I pray for the rest of the world.

Don't worry Brandi! I feel the same way! I feel that we should take care of ourselves before we go poking our noses into other countries! There are many things that are happening in our own countries (Canada and the USA) that we should be taking care of first!! Its terriable that bad things are happening to people every day, but we can't fix others until we fix ourselves!! :)

[MOB Karen]

I have never even heard of Darfur. It is really sad that there is bad stuff happening all over the world and I wish I could make it all better but I can't.

This may sound harsh to some but I would rather see more government aid in our country ... there is disease and poverty and all sorts of bad stuff here too. Granted not as bad as in some 3rd world country but that is not really the point. I just think sometimes the government and those people who always have to have a 'cause' just want to make themselves feel good by helping people in another country when there are people that need help out here too.

I don't know, maybe I am wrong in thinking that way. I don't want to start some 'heated' discussion here ... I am thankful for what I have and I pray for the rest of the world.


Sometimes the rest of the world needs our help, and I believe we are wealthy enough and gracious enough to give it. JMO

[WebLady]

Don't worry Brandi! I feel the same way! I feel that we should take care of ourselves before we go poking our noses into other countries! There are many things that are happening in our own countries (Canada and the USA) that we should be taking care of first!! Its terriable that bad things are happening to people every day, but we can't fix others until we fix ourselves!! :)
I am glad you agree ... I was worried I would offend someone and start a big issue.

... we can't fix others until we fix ourselves!!
I say this alot, about all sorts of things ;)

[Kacie_bride]

I have that attitude as well sometimes that we should fix things here first. However, I find it hard to believe that anyone in our country has it as bad as some of those people in third world countries. When you see the faces on those sweet little children it really breaks your heart. Children should not have to go through things like that. Nobody should. But yes there are lots of things in our own countries that need attention and our help as well.

[WhiskeyGirl]

I have that attitude as well sometimes that we should fix things here first. However, I find it hard to believe that anyone in our country has it as bad as some of those people in third world countries. When you see the faces on those sweet little children it really breaks your heart. Children should not have to go through things like that. Nobody should. But yes there are lots of things in our own countries that need attention and our help as well.

But thats the thing! There are a lot of sweet faces falling through the cracks of our Family services! Both in Canada and the USA. I know there are plenty of stories of mothers and fathers starving their children to death because they were never taken away from their parents or they were taken away and for some reason these government agencies gave them back to their incompetent parents! I hate to see any child suffer, but like I said before, maybe we should start with our homes and then move onto other countries. Sending the UN in might help, but it shouldn't souly be Bush's responsibility!

[WebLady]

Sometimes the rest of the world needs our help, and I believe we are wealthy enough and gracious enough to give it. JMO
I have no problem with helping, I think that the government sometimes seems so concerned about 'looking good' by doing this kind of thing and they neglect those close to home that need help too. I say spread the wealth ... I would love to be able to give to charities here and all over the world but I can't. The governments of the world have it better to do so but they don't.

I have that attitude as well sometimes that we should fix things here first. However, I find it hard to believe that anyone in our country has it as bad as some of those people in third world countries. When you see the faces on those sweet little children it really breaks your heart. Children should not have to go through things like that. Nobody should. But yes there are lots of things in our own countries that need attention and our help as well.
I agree and yeah we are better off than these people in Darfur and Uganda and so on but again, that is not the point. I don't really know how to put my feelings on this subject into the right words, so I will just stop before I stir up something.

[MOB Karen]

But thats the thing! There are a lot of sweet faces falling through the cracks of our Family services! Both in Canada and the USA. I know there are plenty of stories of mothers and fathers starving their children to death because they were never taken away from their parents or they were taken away and for some reason these government agencies gave them back to their incompetent parents! I hate to see any child suffer, but like I said before, maybe we should start with our homes and then move onto other countries. Sending the UN in might help, but it shouldn't souly be Bush's responsibility!

Shawna, some people in the US lump Canada in as a foreign country. I'm not going to do it. I will help you or Hayz or anyone else who needs it. I don't care if you aren't American born.

[WhiskeyGirl]

Shawna, some people in the US lump Canada in as a foreign country. I'm not going to do it. I will help you or Hayz or anyone else who needs it. I don't care if you aren't American born.

And while I appreciate that, I know that we can most likely take care of ourselves. Yes those people can't, but sometimes there is so much more that we can and should do for ourselves in our own countries that we are not. We can't bite off more then we can chew ya know?! I believe that some day we can help the people in Dafur or where ever, but we can't take on too much at once other wise we stretch ourselves to the max and forget about our own! Thats what I'm trying to get at!

[MOB Karen]

And while I appreciate that, I know that we can most likely take care of ourselves. Yes those people can't, but sometimes there is so much more that we can and should do for ourselves in our own countries that we are not. We can't bite off more then we can chew ya know?! I believe that some day we can help the people in Dafur or where ever, but we can't take on too much at once other wise we stretch ourselves to the max and forget about our own! Thats what I'm trying to get at!

I can see your point, I really can. It's just I believe the USA has a lot of room to stretch. They have spent money on far less important stuff. I guess this is just one of those times that we agree to disagree.

[WhiskeyGirl]

I can see your point, I really can. It's just I believe the USA has a lot of room to stretch. They have spent money on far less important stuff. I guess this is just one of those times that we agree to disagree.

Yes I suppose it is! I'm glad we are all adults here and can talk these things out and never get on each others bad side. So I agree we'll agree to disagree!

[MOB Karen]

Yes I suppose it is! I'm glad we are all adults here and can talk these things out and never get on each others bad side. So I agree we'll agree to disagree!


You'll never get on my bad side, Shawna! I like you too much!!

[WhiskeyGirl]

You'll never get on my bad side, Shawna! I like you too much!!

Phew!! lol. Glad to hear that!

[Kacie_bride]

I know there are a lot of children here that need our help and protective services sometimes does not do their jobs like they are supposed to. And I agree that it isen't President Bush's sole responsibility to help the people in other countries. When he took office he said "Not on my watch" about the Rwanda incident 12 years ago (I think). And we may not always in Canada and the U.S. be able to take care of ourselves. In the history of the world every great civilization has eventually fallen. And look what happened during World War II to the Jews. Nobody says we should have just let that happen and stay out of Germany's business.

But anyway. Brandi, I don't think you are going to stir something up. I think everyone around here can be very mature when we disagree on something. I respect your opinion and anyone else's on the subject. (Just as side note, isen't it great to be an American/Canadian because you can say your opinion and not worry about being killed for it!) I just feel very compelled to let others know who want to help out. Karen did not know about it before this and she wanted to help out, so my goal is completed.

[MOB Karen]

Thank you, Kacie! I am grateful you enlightened me. I was completely blind to the whole thing. I sent the postcard and I now know so much more than I ever knew before. If I helped one person by sending that postcard, then hallelujah! Thanks, again!

[WebLady]

... But anyway ... Brandi, I don't think you are going to stir something up. I think everyone around here can be very mature when we disagree on something. I respect your opinion and anyone else's on the subject.
Glad to hear :D

... (Just as side note, isen't it great to be an American/Canadian because you can say your opinion and not worry about being killed for it!)
IT SURE IS :bbmrgreen:

... I just feel very compelled to let others know who want to help out. Karen did not know about it before this and she wanted to help out, so my goal is completed.
That is great, we all have our 'causes' ;) I don't think any less of you, your still my favorite Kacie :hug:

[Kacie_bride]

That is great, we all have our 'causes' ;) I don't think any less of you, your still my favorite Kacie :hug:[/quote]

Thank you!

[Kacie_bride]

Thank you, Kacie! I am grateful you enlightened me. I was completely blind to the whole thing. I sent the postcard and I now know so much more than I ever knew before. If I helped one person by sending that postcard, then hallelujah! Thanks, again!

You're welcome and thanks for sending the postcard!

[CarlosHoney]

I sent the postcard to Mr. Bush. ;)

I was aware that there was conflict in Darfur, but not of that magnitude. I do think that we should 'take care of our own' but I also think that if we can go into Iraq and bomb the :censored: out of people, then we can send food and medical aid to Darfur.

I think that the USA needs to re-evaluate the system of operating. I think that there are posistions (Prez, Senators, Etc.) that have way too much pay and benefits, while there are others (My Dad works for the Forest Service; Military, Teachers, Police Officers, Etc.) that get little pay for the jobs that they do. I think that the poor people (like me :p) should get relief.

In a country like this, eveyone should have clean running water. Electricity. Telephone service. Socialised Healthcare. A Free Education worth the time put into it.. A home to live in.

By the same token, I think that we need to help those less fortunate than us. That doesn't mean we should go poking our noses into everyone's business, but when people are being slaughtered like cattle, we do need to speak up.

I truly think that both of these are possible if things were rearranged. Money is going to the wrong people, IMO. Maybe that's just me.

[LaceyinPgh]

I just had my kids do a research project on Darfur. The great thing about being a teacher is I can impress my view points (which we all know are always 100% correct 100% of the time) on my students without impressing my view points on my students.

But the conclusion that my kids came to was that the US government really holds a double standard when it comes to sending aid and recognizing political conflict. Tragically, a bunch of Africans in a third world nation really can't do anything for our government or our economy so :censored: them!

We did the same thing in Rwanda in the early 1990's when between 600,000-800,000 (depending on who does the estimates) people were basically hacked to death or beaten to death in their homes. There is proof that the United States governemnt knew what the German's were doing during the Holocuast but turned a blind eye. That one, cost the world 6 million lives or as I like to put it one third of the Jewish population. Again, the governemnts of the Western world (albeit were tied up with WWII at the time) just didn't see the benefit of acting to save the Jews. We ignored Cambodia when 1.5 million people (mostly intellectuals) died under Pol Pot's reign of terror. The whole country just fell off of the map one day and no one really bothered to investigate until Vietnam went in asking quetsions. To give Western society some credit though, we did run into the former Yugoslavia and put an end to their "ethnic cleansing" of ethnic Albanians.

Genocide wasn't even a crime until about 60 years ago after we saw the destruction caused by society from the Holocaust. Which we are still paying for today. Tragically looking at the track record we have as a global society, it isn't looking good for Darfur. I don't care the color of your skin, where you live, where you are from, what your belief system is; NO ONE should ever not be allowed to live peacefully and safely in their own home on their own homeland. Read the UN's Universal Decaration on Human Rights. It is what we as a society should strive towards for EVERY person on this earth, equally. We are a global society of HUMANS and it is our job to take care of each other globally. None of this yours, mine, ours stuff. We all belong to each other.

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

By the way I am ordering a few packets of the "Save Darfur" wrist bands for my students. I will have plenty left over. If you want one, they are yours. They come in packages of 10 or 15 I think. PM me.

[MOB Karen]

I just had my kids do a research project on Darfur. The great thing about being a teacher is I can impress my view points (which we all know are always 100% correct 100% of the time) on my students without impressing my view points on my students.

But the conclusion that my kids came to was that the US government really holds a double standard when it comes to sending aid and recognizing political conflict. Tragically, a bunch of Africans in a third world nation really can't do anything for our government or our economy so :censored: them!

We did the same thing in Rwanda in the early 1990's when between 600,000-800,000 (depending on who does the estimates) people were basically hacked to death or beaten to death in their homes. There is proof that the United States governemnt knew what the German's were doing during the Holocuast but turned a blind eye. That one, cost the world 6 million lives or as I like to put it one third of the Jewish population. Again, the governemnts of the Western world (albeit were tied up with WWII at the time) just didn't see the benefit of acting to save the Jews. We ignored Cambodia when 1.5 million people (mostly intellectuals) died under Pol Pot's reign of terror. The whole country just fell off of the map one day and no one really bothered to investigate until Vietnam went in asking quetsions. To give Western society some credit though, we did run into the former Yugoslavia and put an end to their "ethnic cleansing" of ethnic Albanians.

Genocide wasn't even a crime until about 60 years ago after we saw the destruction caused by society from the Holocaust. Which we are still paying for today. Tragically looking at the track record we have as a global society, it isn't looking good for Darfur. I don't care the color of your skin, where you live, where you are from, what your belief system is; NO ONE should ever not be allowed to live peacefully and safely in their own home on their own homeland. Read the UN's Universal Decaration on Human Rights. It is what we as a society should strive towards for EVERY person on this earth, equally. We are a global society of HUMANS and it is our job to take care of each other globally. None of this yours, mine, ours stuff. We all belong to each other.

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

By the way I am ordering a few packets of the "Save Darfur" wrist bands for my students. I will have plenty left over. If you want one, they are yours. They come in packages of 10 or 15 I think. PM me.



Lacey - This was the most educational and saddest post I have ever read. I am still crying. All I can think to say is....Thank God! Thank God, there are teachers like you out there making an impact on our children, and changing the viewpoint of America of not wanting to get involved. Who knows, maybe it was a teacher who touched Kacie's heart just enough so that when she realized what was going on in Darfur, she was compelled to notify us (her friends). I honestly believe that people like you are changing our world for the better! You are a blessing.

Thanks again,

Karen

ps: I PM'd you too.

[Amber818]

I sent my postcard today! I also sent an email out to everyone in my office to send out postcards. Thank you Kacie for letting us know about Darfur and thank you Lacey for putting an educational/emotional voice to this cause. We all can make a difference here in the US, in Canada, and in 3rd World countries...

"Nothing that I can do will change the structure of the universe. But maybe, by raising my voice I can help the greatest of all causes - goodwill among men and peace on earth."
-Albert Einstein

[MOB Karen]

I sent my postcard today! I also sent an email out to everyone in my office to send out postcards. Thank you Kacie for letting us know about Darfur and thank you Lacey for putting an educational/emotional voice to this cause. We all can make a difference here in the US, in Canada, and in 3rd World countries...

"Nothing that I can do will change the structure of the universe. But maybe, by raising my voice I can help the greatest of all causes - goodwill among men and peace on earth."
-Albert Einstein


I'm so proud you are my daughter!!!

[WebLady]

I sat here and wrote out a long and rambled post but after reading it I decided not to post it.

I do think it is extremely sad and wrong that there are (and have been) such horrible things happening all over the world.

I really don't know what to do or say about all this stuff ... I guess we all have our 'causes' we have to fight. I hope and pray that we can make some changes in them. God Bless us all.

[usahgrad]

This type of thing makes us realize how much our government, as Lacey said, has a double standard. Let's take a moment and step back from a place the people said they hadn't heard of before (Darfur) and look at some place we have heard of...Sudan. The genocide that's going on there has been going on for years and a lot of people know about it. Unfortunately, there's no oil buried below Sudan so taking over there country wouldn't be very beneficial.

Pardon me while I share my political theory for a second: I believe that our wonderful president (please note the sarcasm) used Afghanistan as a testing grounds for Iraq. Once he proved he could march in and take over a country lickety-split, he marched in and took over a county he wanted (Iraq). He kind of left Afghanistan to their own devices, for the most part (I know there is still troop involvment there, but it is minimal) and headed for the place that could provide his buddies (the oil kings) a little help.

Exxon/Mobile just released their first quarter profits for this year; over 8 billion dollars. Makes you glad to know that while you're scrimping and saving to get that tank of gas you need to get your family around on those crazy pot-holey streets that city governments can't afford to fix without cutting funding from schools, that someone out there is able to record a 7% increase in profits from this time last year. Kind of surprising considering hundreds of companies close their doors every month because they just can't afford to stay open anymore. Or, like the bigger companies; General Motors, for example, they cut their employees' health care benefit programs because they can't afford it anymore. Hmm...I can think of a better place for that over 8 billion in profits (for three months mind you) than the pocket of the Exxon/Mobile execs. Maybe we should send them a post card to invest some of their profits in food and medical supplies for Darfur...with 8 billion, they could probably supply the country for a year.

Just some food for thought, didn't mean to go way off topic. Sorry if this made anyone mad or if it hijacked the thread a little. I am just so frustrated today!

[tha_mrs]

You know reading all of these post were enlighting for me. I cant help but thisk about hurricane Katrina. That was a disaster!

[Kacie_bride]

Yes Hurricane Katrina was horrible. When Hurricane Rita hit here we did not have electricity for 14 days or water for 5 and that was bad enough. My house got half of the roof ripped off, but thankfully my parents live here too and we stayed with them while it was being repaired. I can't imagine if everything we had was gone like those poor people. The only thing besides the roof and ceiling that got ruined at my house was the bird house, my kitchen table, the curtains in the living room and kitchen, and all the contents in my frig. We had moved most of the pictures and stuff on the walls so no water got on them and they survived. We also moved the TV or it would have gotten ruined too. The couches made it okay. That got a little wet, but they were fine.

Oh and thank you everyone who sent the postcard and thank you Lacey for giving some educational insite onto the topic.

[Valmai]

Sorry to butt in lol Genocide became a crime according to international law in early 1950s but the UK didnt join this til 1970 and USA didnt until 1988 and then only agreed to sign this treaty if they were immune to prosecution unless their consent was given. UK and USA are very good at helping to write up laws/acts but not joining them themselves human rights is another area in which this happened. I feel then that the trouble is as people who live in these countries then we tend to get thought of as being the same as these people who 'represent' us and then that annoys me! I was very surprised at the amount of protests i seen against the war in Iraq when we visited, every place we went to or drove thru had some sort of protest!
Valmai xxx
PS I loved your country!! lol

[OctoberBride06]

this is just so sad, I don't know if anyone watches ER, but they are doing part of there show on Darfur, and what happens is just unimaginable, I was watching it last night, and just seeing what people do to other people is horrifying.. I cried, it just maked me sick, to hear what they do to children and women.
I just can't believe we have that happening around the world,

it certainly make me more appreciative of what I have,
we just have to remember that every little bit helps!

[countrygirl]

I know that this has already been stated, but I have to voice my opinion on this. I have just recently heard of Darfur. It is truely a sad situation, and out of my own selfishness, I try not to read too much about it because I have a very hard time dealing w that sort of violence.

But in my opinion, how on earth are we supposed to ask our government to support another country, while we can't support our own?? I agree that there are millions of people in the world that need assitance, and their government is too poor, or too crooked to help, but look at ours!! We have one of the wealthiest governments in the world, spend billions helping other countries build and rebuild, yet we can't afford to help our own children who live in the streets. There are so many men, women and children who have nothing, and would give anything to have just alittle help, but we are too with other countries.

I don't want to be mean, but think of this. If we could spend just half the time and money on people in our own neighborhoods build and rebuild, then there would be that many more people (in the long run) who would be able to help others. Does that make sense??

Not to go too far into another subject, but I live in an area where immigration is a major issue and I see so many people get assistance, and abuse the system, and give nothing back, but those (like myself a few years back) couldn't get help because we weren't from another country. I don't see that it is fair to assist other countries and shut our own citizens out.

Ok, I said my piece, and probubly just made a few enemies, which wasn't my intention. I just had to say what I felt.

[countrygirl]

this is just so sad, I don't know if anyone watches ER, but they are doing part of there show on Darfur, and what happens is just unimaginable, I was watching it last night, and just seeing what people do to other people is horrifying.. I cried, it just maked me sick, to hear what they do to children and women.
I just can't believe we have that happening around the world,

it certainly make me more appreciative of what I have,
we just have to remember that every little bit helps!

I did see that last night. It was heart wrenching.

[MOB Karen]

I know that this has already been stated, but I have to voice my opinion on this. I have just recently heard of Darfur. It is truely a sad situation, and out of my own selfishness, I try not to read too much about it because I have a very hard time dealing w that sort of violence.

But in my opinion, how on earth are we supposed to ask our government to support another country, while we can't support our own?? I agree that there are millions of people in the world that need assitance, and their government is too poor, or too crooked to help, but look at ours!! We have one of the wealthiest governments in the world, spend billions helping other countries build and rebuild, yet we can't afford to help our own children who live in the streets. There are so many men, women and children who have nothing, and would give anything to have just alittle help, but we are too with other countries.

I don't want to be mean, but think of this. If we could spend just half the time and money on people in our own neighborhoods build and rebuild, then there would be that many more people (in the long run) who would be able to help others. Does that make sense??

Not to go too far into another subject, but I live in an area where immigration is a major issue and I see so many people get assistance, and abuse the system, and give nothing back, but those (like myself a few years back) couldn't get help because we weren't from another country. I don't see that it is fair to assist other countries and shut our own citizens out.

Ok, I said my piece, and probubly just made a few enemies, which wasn't my intention. I just had to say what I felt.


You haven't made an enemy of me. You have a right to your opinion just like everyone else. I just wish we could put this whole issue to bed and be done with it. That is my opinion.

[countrygirl]

You haven't made an enemy of me. You have a right to your opinion just like everyone else. I just wish we could put this whole issue to bed and be done with it. That is my opinion.

Glad you are still my friend Karen!!!!:bbmrgreen: I really don't want to make any enemies. ESPECIALLY here.

Unfortunately, this is an issue that will never be put to bed. There will always been a "3rd world" country that will need help. Starvation, civil wars, and terrorism are things that have been around sinc the dawn of time, and will be around until the end of time. And while I don't feel that there is a soul out there that deserves to suffer from it (aside from those that engage in it), I still feel that we have enough to deal w on our own soil that we can't possibly solve the problems elsewhere.

[MOB Karen]

Glad you are still my friend Karen!!!!:bbmrgreen: I really don't want to make any enemies. ESPECIALLY here.

Unfortunately, this is an issue that will never be put to bed. There will always been a "3rd world" country that will need help. Starvation, civil wars, and terrorism are things that have been around sinc the dawn of time, and will be around until the end of time. And while I don't feel that there is a soul out there that deserves to suffer from it (aside from those that engage in it), I still feel that we have enough to deal w on our own soil that we can't possibly solve the problems elsewhere.


I know that, Heather, that was why I did my part to help that issue. I also do my part to help the issues here in the US. That's just me. But I think, as far as Darfur is concerned, we have beat that dead horse to death. Let's move on.

[Amber818]

They have no one to speak for them though, Heather. It would be great to say you deal with your issues and the US will deal with our issues but no one is helping Darfur....no one! What does it cost a US citizen to take a few minutes of their time to send off a postcard? One simple post card that could save a life...or many lives.....

[MOB Karen]

They have no one to speak for them though, Heather. It would be great to say you deal with your issues and the US will deal with our issues but no one is helping Darfur....no one! What does it cost a US citizen to take a few minutes of their time to send off a postcard? One simple post card that could save a life...or many lives.....

Let's stop, Amber. It's a volatile issue and one that has no resolution.

[Amber818]

Let's stop, Amber. It's a volatile issue and one that has no resolution.

Hot Topic!! ; ) I am done...LOL! Sorry, mom!

[countrygirl]

Hot Topic!! ; ) I am done...LOL! Sorry, mom!

Ok, I am beating the dead horse a bit more. I wasn't saying not to help the countries like Darfur. I am just saying help a bit more here, too. I may not have worded that correctly. I hope I didn't offend you Amber. I just tend to get carried away when I am talking about something that I have strong feelings for. That and I had an extreme caffine coffee from Cornerstone this morn, so I am a bit wired!!!

K, I am done now too.

[CindySue]

Unfortunately, this is an issue that will never be put to bed. There will always been a "3rd world" country that will need help. Starvation, civil wars, and terrorism are things that have been around sinc the dawn of time, and will be around until the end of time. And while I don't feel that there is a soul out there that deserves to suffer from it (aside from those that engage in it), I still feel that we have enough to deal w on our own soil that we can't possibly solve the problems elsewhere.
Youre right Heather.....there will always be "something" and I totally agree with you that while we should help other countries, we do need to keep a little more of that help here in our own. IMO

[countrygirl]

Youre right Heather.....there will always be "something" and I totally agree with you that while we should help other countries, we do need to keep a little more of that help here in our own. IMO

So that means that you are still my friend too???:wink:

[CindySue]

So that means that you are still my friend too???:wink:
Still your friend? H3LL...Im on your bandwagon!!!!

[Kacie_bride]

I love everybody!!! :bblol:

[WebLady]

I love everybody!!! :bblol:
We love you too :hug: