Veils?

[Shawna Bride]

Hey Ladies,
How is everyone walking down the aisle? Are you walking with the veil over your face, or not?
I'm not sure what's proper.
If there is any Jewish brides I'd love to hear what you are doing do since we are an inter-faith couple.

[Jenn060306]

I'm not sure on what's proper either, or even what the tradition came from.
I plan on wearing my veil infront of my face to walk down the isle. I like the idea of it, and couldn't imagine not doing it.

[StaceyMc]

I'm not doing the veil over my face. It's always beautiful when someone else does it, but I don't want something on my face.

Although, I've been Miss Indecisive the last few days, so who knows how many times I'll change my mind.

[CindySue]

Im not even doing the veil thing.........I will probably just put flowers in my hair or something along those lines.

[Shawna Bride]

does anyone know where I could get information on Jewish wedding ceremonies? I want to incorporate both religions in to our ceremony, so it's be nice to know more about them.

[CindySue]

does anyone know where I could get information on Jewish wedding ceremonies? I want to incorporate both religions in to our ceremony, so it's be nice to know more about them.

You might want to try Googling "Jewish wedding traditions". That should give you the info you are looking for.

[LaceyinPgh]

http://www.*******.com/ch_article.html?Object=AI990319162420&keywordID=161&keywordType=2&parentID=527

http://www.*******.com/ch_article.html?Object=AI91108164908&keywordID=161&keywordType=2&parentID=527

http://www.*******.com/ch_article.html?Object=AI91108165802&keywordID=161&keywordType=2&parentID=527

Those are what I could easiy find o Jewish weddings. I have some Jewish friends so if you have any questions maybe I can help by asking them. (One of them is getting married in December in Israel.)

As for the veil in the face thing, absolutely not. THe only reason I am even wearing a veil to to keep my mother silent. It is coming off as soon as the ceremony is over. I won't be wearing it in the face because of what it represents.

[Shawna Bride]

What does it represent?

[LaceyinPgh]

It is the passing of ownership from your father to your husband's family. Traditiaonlly women wore veils over their faces because their husbands weren't allowed to see them until he had taken ownership. There of course was a no going back policy if she wasn't "as advertised". It is just an old tradition but I think some traditions at least for me should be broken. I am not having the statement "who gives this woman" or "man and wife/husband and wife" incorporated in the ceremony either.

[CindySue]

It is the passing of ownership from your father to your husband's family. Traditiaonlly women wore veils over their faces because their husbands weren't allowed to see them until he had taken ownership. There of course was a no going back policy if she wasn't "as advertised". It is just an old tradition but I think some traditions at least for me should be broken. I am not having the statement "who gives this woman" or "man and wife/husband and wife" incorporated in the ceremony either.

I dont like that tradtion either. I also am not having the "who gives this woman" thing either. Ive been on my own for so long.....I OWN ME.......I might share me with Brian, but even after we are married.....I WILL STILL OWN ME! But Brian isnt the type that thinks after we are married, I will have to do what he says and ask his permission for everything. Ive had one of those......didnt go over too well with me. I had already been out on my own taking care of myself longer than he had, but HE WAS GONNA BOSS ME?....:bblol:

[WhiskeyGirl]

I didn't do they veil over my face either....quite frankly I think its kind of silly looking!! I did wear one but it was just there for decoration!!Lol. I didn't care about the "Who gives this bride...." stuff, my mom and dad said they did. I know in my heart that it isn't about ownership, my husband does not own me, he is only married to me and my best friend!!!

[officiant-fica]

Veils covering the face are also supposed to be a symbol of virginity.

[CindySue]

Veils covering the face are also supposed to be a symbol of virginity.

oops....:bbredface: ......good thing Im not wearing one!

[CarlosHoney]

I'm not wearing a veil. I just feel like it's not me. I'm going to get some spray roses to put in my hair (OMG!! Now that my mom isn't coming I have to find a stylist!!) but that's all.

My dad is giving me away.. I really don't feel 'owned' by anyone, Carlo isn't chauvanistic or anything, I just felt like this is a nice way to honor my dad. That's all.

[bnd94]

I don't know if I will have a veil or not. It is usually pretty windy on the mountain so I think it might just be a pain and I would have to take it off anyway.

I can't imagine not having my Dad walk me down the aisle. I know he has always planned on it. My Mom has told me she knows he is going to start crying. Even though I haven't lived at home for more than 10 years I guess I am still his little girl, at least that is what he tells everyone anyway. LOL! :D I know it would really hurt his feelings if I decided not to do this.

[WhiskeyGirl]

oops....:bbredface: ......good thing Im not wearing one!

Good thing I didn't wear it over my face either!! :bblol:

PS I'm NOT Cindy, I'm Shawna....Cindy's post was above!! lol

[StaceyMc]

I'm having my dad walk me down the aisle....I can't imagine doing anything else. I know that he doesn't think that he "owns" me (I've been out of the house for 9 years now) and I know that Joe doesn't think he's "taking possession" of me, I think it is a sweet tradition.

The part of the ceremony that bugs me is "I'd like to introduce to you Mr. and Mrs. Albert Joseph V." I told Joe, it's like I'm losing my identity. I'll be honored to be Mrs. V., but can we be introduced as "Joe and Stacey V."? He doesn't care how the pastor introduces us, as long as we're married at the end of the ceremony.

[Andriella]

I thought the veil represented modesty.:confused: Well, if it does represent the other things, I don't hink it's for me. I wanted to get the veil that matches my dress and wear it under my hair (will be up) because it is two layers and really really pretty but I would have to get a blusher to go over my face because it's decorated and I couldn't see through it very well. That and I'm chlostrophobic and I'll already be nervous enough, I don't need anything else to make me freak out! I love Eric and am excited about mwrrying him but I know I'll still have butterflies in my stomach. If I do gett he veil it won't be infront of my face. With my hair up and curly and the tiara and maybe the veil on the back of my head, I think adding a blusher to cover my face would just be WAY too much.:kap: I am also stumped about the who gives this woman... business because my parents are divorced and my Dad's walking me down the isle. So I guess I'll talk to the pastor about some other options.

[rainbowtreat]

I will have a veil but not covering my face. I don't like the looks of it and Nicholas and I live together so it is not like he hasn't seen me before or anything. And my mom is giving me away. Somehting was said when I was home about how I thought that my first wedding was "the one". I had told them I was young and nieve and I have gorwn up and I know what I want. This is for life with Nicholas. My mom said I am giving her away and that means its for good. My mom is giving me away because this is not a traditional ceremony. And I am not close to my dads at all. I have my real dad and my ex-step-dad who is still in my life ( my sisters dad ) and my mom has since remarried the yr after my daughter was born. He is not a dad to me but a big part of my life. And my mom is the one who raised me. Most of the time on her own with me and my sister. She has always supported me in every thign I have done. Even if she didnt agree with it. She hated to see me leave my home town but knew it was for the better. I was actually getting out of that place and making a life for myself. She is an amazing woman and I can't wiat to have her hand me over to Nihcolas. It is not an owner ship thing at all. Just a very special person doign somethign very special for me on this very special day.

[Shawna Bride]

I'm not wearing a veil. I just feel like it's not me. I'm going to get some spray roses to put in my hair (OMG!! Now that my mom isn't coming I have to find a stylist!!) but that's all.

My dad is giving me away.. I really don't feel 'owned' by anyone, Carlo isn't chauvanistic or anything, I just felt like this is a nice way to honor my dad. That's all.

What's a spray rose?

Plus, I missed the post where you explained why your Mom wasn't coming, what happened?

[Kacie_bride]

I am wearing a veil over my face. I'm not doing it because of traditions, I just think it looks pretty. About the whole symbolizing virginity thing, so does the white dress. But I don't really care what the veil or the dress symbolizes personally. If it looks good on you and you feel good with it, you should do it. I am also having my dad give me away, not because of ownership either, but I couldn't imagine it any other way for me.

[CindySue]

I am wearing a veil over my face. I'm not doing it because of traditions, I just think it looks pretty. About the whole symbolizing virginity thing, so does the white dress. But I don't really care what the veil or the dress symbolizes personally. If it looks good on you and you feel good with it, you should do it. I am also having my dad give me away, not because of ownership either, but I couldn't imagine it any other way for me.

I cant find it now but I read where the white dress started out as a symbol of wealth. The wedding dresses had been of color, and this one woman wanted to be different, so she had hers all white.

Found it!!!

The Bridal Gown

Wedding gowns have not always been elaborate, as many are today. In the eighteenth century, poor brides dressed in simple robes. This symbolized to her future husband that she brought nothing with her into the marriage and would therefore not burden him with any debt. It wasn't until the mid nineteenth century that the all-white wedding dress became fashionable. Up until then a bride simply wore her best dress, regardless of its color. In 1840, Queen Victoria's pure white gown started the trend that many women follow today.
Victoria was quite the pioneer; she chose to be married in a white gown, eschewing the traditional silver garb commonly worn by royals. Her choice had a far-reaching impact that even she couldn't have foreseen. After her wedding, white not only became the "official" color for brides-to-be; it also became a symbol of wealth, as few women could afford an elaborate white dress that couldn't easily be reused.
These days, the white wedding gown has become a symbol of joy and celebration. In the past, the white gown also carried with it the connotation of purity, youth and virginity. Needless to say, this has changed, and many second-time brides are now choosing to wear white for their weddings.

[andysgirl07]

I'm going to wear my veil over my face walking down the aisle and have my stepdad pull it back when we get to the altar. I couldn't imagine not doing it at my wedding (tradition and all, I guess). I'm going to try to make mine during my spring break.

[WebLady]

I only skimmed the thread so please forgive me if I repeat anything ...

There are alot of our wedding traditions that have roots in things we don't practice anymore. Some people like to pick and choose which ones they feel are acceptable but most all have similar roots. I think it is all in how you look at it.

As for where the veil thing comes from, here is what I found ...

... There is much superstition behind many of the traditions involved in weddings these days. The veil holds some interesting ones ... It was once thought to hide the bride from would be kidnappers, just as the similar dress of the bridal attendants was originally intended. Then some thought that having the face of the bride hidden, would somehow render what was "hidden" to be of greater value. Another early interpretation was that the veil was a symbol of the bride's youth and virginity. Others say it shows the subordination of the bride to her groom. And the act of lifting the veil at the end of the ceremony symbolizes the husbands dominance or control over his new wife. If the bride takes the initiative to lift it, thereby presenting herself to him, it shows that she is independent and/or his equal. Today the veil is just part of the bridal fashion and these days many brides choose not to wear it over their face.

And someone mentioned the 'giveaway' ...

... Back in the days of women having few privileges and even fewer personal rights, the bride was literally given away like property to the groom by her father. Usually this was a trade of sorts, in exchange for some sort of monetary gain or social stature. Today, it is merely seen as the symbolic blessing of the brides family in that they support the union. This can also be seen as a promise of continued support, trust and affection from the family. Today when the question is asked by a clergy during the ceremony, "Who gives this woman to be married to this man," the father's response is usually, "Her mother and I"

The ring itself even has 'control' roots, but most women don't seem to have a problem with that part ;) I think I may have posted this in another thread but here it is again ...

... There are many different views about where the tradition of wearing a ring comes from. In Greek mythology, it was told that Prometheus smelted a ring from the fire of the gods out of his love for mankind. Some say the act of giving a ring is more of a symbol of the groom's willingness to make personal and financial sacrifices in order to 'take care of' his bride.

Early wedding rings were used to seal the 'sale' and transfer ownership of the woman from her father to her new husband. Such rings were usually gold as a sign of wealth and status. Some have said that the ring was worn on the left hand of the bride because it was the weakest finger on the weakest hand and thus the ring symbolized a husbands control over his wife. And of course to tell other men that she was taken, which is one of the ways we use the ring today.

A more romantic tradition has the wedding rings worn on the third finger of the left hand as there was an old Egyptian belief that there is a vein in this hand that runs directly to the heart. It was known as "the vein of love"

Today, most look at the ring as a symbol of love and commitment. An unending circle made of an unbreakable metal and therefore signifies an unbreakable love and an unending commitment.

There isn't much mention about the groom wearing a ring at all until the early 1900's.

And Cindy is right about the dress thing but, I didn't know it was Queen Victoria that started it.

[ikkin510]

I am going to be wearing a veil for the wedding. It's just one layer and it matches my dress perfectly (ivory with champagne trim.) I don't want it in from on my face though. While I will be freak out and like to "hide" from all the people staring at me, I tried on a veil that went in front of my face and it really bothered me having something hanging so close. I can't even stant when hair falls in front of my face!
I will be having my dad walk me down the isle. We are still working out picking out the cereomy wording, but I think we are going to use the "who takes this woman..." phrase. FH and I are both very "old-fashion" people so it fits for us.

[CarlosHoney]

These are spray roses:
http://www.fiftyflowers.com/ProductImages/roses/spray/alegriathumb.jpg
They look like miniatures, and they're usually a few on the same branch.

My mom isn't coming because I'm not talking to her. Lies, broken promises, etc. I'm fed up, and I don't want her raining on my parade..

Like, 3 weeks after I had Elias, she's nagging me about losing weight and sucking in my tummy. HELLO!! I had a baby less than a month ago?! Explaining to her that if I loose too much weight too quickly my milk will dry up didn't help. She just said for me to loose weight slowly then..

Yeah, she's 45 and still hasn't lost all of her baby weight. I'm back into my pre-pregnancy clothes. I'm the one who needs to lose weight, sure... :bbconfused:

[Valmai]

Im not wearing a veil just a tiara (which i havent found yet) i do like veils but they just are not me! Jamie and i are having a civil ceremony and we are walking into the building together we already live together anyways - again this is our personal choice that suits us! xxx

[Kacie_bride]

Oh yeah, I'm wearing a tiara with my veil. I think they are all very pretty. It makes you kinda feel like a princess with one on!